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66278, How crucial is backpressure? Posted by GhEttOrAiD, Mar-02-04 07:33 AM
My "sort of friend" who owns a shop in south SF was telling me that turbochargers do in fact need some backpressure to spool up, something about requiring heat to make power... Honestly I couldnt make much sense of it... But basically the overall message being that running a qtec exhaust cutout as I plan to do will hurt me massively on the low end/lower rpm's BECAUSE the turbo needs some backpressure in order to spool. Conversely, he said that upgrading to a 3" downpipe would be very beneficial... =0
FYI, I'm capping things off with a GSX muffler this afternoon. Need the car to look as stock as possible...and sound a bit tamer. Long term plans were to add an electric cutout so that at least some of the time I can have loud obnoxious exhaust... But... if my turbocharger takes forever to spool with the exhaust opened up, what good does it do other than ... be obnoxious and loud?
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66279, RE: How crucial is backpressure? Posted by GhEttOrAiD, Mar-02-04 07:34 AM
<edit> If the GSX muffler sounds okay and doesn't restrict me TOO much more I probably wouldnt bother... still not happy about having to do this =-\
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66280, RE: How crucial is backpressure? Posted by DarkOne, Mar-02-04 07:48 AM
Originally posted by GhEttOrAiD My "sort of friend" who owns a shop in south SF was telling me that turbochargers do in fact need some backpressure to spool up, something about requiring heat to make power... Honestly I couldnt make much sense of it... But basically the overall message being that running a qtec exhaust cutout as I plan to do will hurt me massively on the low end/lower rpm's BECAUSE the turbo needs some backpressure in order to spool.
My advice would be to stop listening to that guy because he does not know what he is talking about.
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66284, RE: How crucial is backpressure? Posted by GhEttOrAiD, Mar-02-04 08:14 AM
Originally posted by DarkOneOriginally posted by GhEttOrAiD My "sort of friend" who owns a shop in south SF was telling me that turbochargers do in fact need some backpressure to spool up, something about requiring heat to make power... Honestly I couldnt make much sense of it... But basically the overall message being that running a qtec exhaust cutout as I plan to do will hurt me massively on the low end/lower rpm's BECAUSE the turbo needs some backpressure in order to spool. My advice would be to stop listening to that guy because he does not know what he is talking about.
lol
glad i didnt link to his fledgeling shop then
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66283, RE: How crucial is backpressure? Posted by mkerley, Mar-02-04 08:14 AM
Originally posted by GhEttOrAiD My "sort of friend" who owns a shop in south SF was telling me that turbochargers do in fact need some backpressure to spool up, something about requiring heat to make power...
turbos spool up due to a pressure differential. Therefore, more backpressure = less pressure differential = slower spool.
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66285, RE: How crucial is backpressure? Posted by GhEttOrAiD, Mar-02-04 08:15 AM
Originally posted by mkerleyOriginally posted by GhEttOrAiD My "sort of friend" who owns a shop in south SF was telling me that turbochargers do in fact need some backpressure to spool up, something about requiring heat to make power... turbos spool up due to a pressure differential. Therefore, more backpressure = less pressure differential = slower spool.
YEAH thats what I was thinking
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66286, RE: How crucial is backpressure? Posted by turbo8u, Mar-02-04 08:40 AM
they have back pressure sensors you can use to test what certain sections of your exhaust are restricted.....
reducing back pressure directly increases exhaust flo, i.e- thats why a 3inch downpipe directly effects spool time. _________ 96 talon esi-t san clemente, ca
as needles of ice are the ill winds' talons the coldest of shadows they seep unto the bone
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66289, RE: How crucial is backpressure? Posted by corsagsbo, Mar-02-04 09:10 AM
discussing thermal exhaust gas dynamics and maximum air velocities in relation to pulse and volume will be a long discussion... Just to make it simple, tell him that he should not be telling you info he knows nothing about.. ;)
-------------------------------------- know me as santiago boosted 420a and ej2o..(my 2liter v8 eaters)
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66300, RE: How crucial is backpressure? Posted by siueclipse, Mar-02-04 11:15 AM
the best exhaust.. is no exhaust
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66307, RE: How crucial is backpressure? Posted by GhEttOrAiD, Mar-02-04 02:39 PM
Originally posted by siueclipse the best exhaust.. is no exhaust
haha
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66325, RE: How crucial is backpressure? Posted by thedawg, Mar-03-04 04:37 AM
Although you'll find if you *ahem* one day accidentally lose your exhaust system.... your fuel trims will go apeshit and the car won't run too well :+
doh :whoa
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66329, RE: How crucial is backpressure? Posted by MrSlick, Mar-03-04 05:18 AM
Originally posted by thedawg Although you'll find if you *ahem* one day accidentally lose your exhaust system.... your fuel trims will go apeshit and the car won't run too well :+ doh :whoa
That's because you need an O2 sensor... even if you dont want an exhaust... haha.
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