i took the car to go to class today. i'm sitting at a red light and all of a sudden my oil light starts flashing. so i pull over to the side of the road and pop the hood. there is oil everywhere all over the battery and everything. i thought maybe i just had a leak from the oil sending unit, so i filled it with oil and continued to class. i got done class and was heading home. same thing again. i needed to get home so i just kept adding oil. i get back to the local garage i used to work at and we throw it on the lift. so leaking oil from the sending unit. we lower down and start it up and there is smoke and oil shooting out of the valve cover vent that goes into the intake. i lost 4 qts in 50 miles. the check engine light was on so we pulled the codes and it said to lean in bank 1. the only thing i don't get is that it still runs fine, no problems whatsoever. so what do you think, ring lands? possible something in the valvetrain or head. i need to let the garage know what i want to do.

I can't believe you were driving it around without getting your kit squared away first.


Maybe you blew your headgasket bro.

how can i tell if i blew a headgasket instead. that would be great. no the kit was squared away, i got it running right last night. or so i thought. any input on the head gasket?

Originally posted by nosdeclipse
i took the car to go to class today. i'm sitting at a red light and all of a sudden my oil light starts flashing. so i pull over to the side of the road and pop the hood. there is oil everywhere all over the battery and everything. i thought maybe i just had a leak from the oil sending unit, so i filled it with oil and continued to class. i got done class and was heading home. same thing again. i needed to get home so i just kept adding oil. i get back to the local garage i used to work at and we throw it on the lift. so leaking oil from the sending unit. we lower down and start it up and there is smoke and oil shooting out of the valve cover vent that goes into the intake. i lost 4 qts in 50 miles. the check engine light was on so we pulled the codes and it said to lean in bank 1. the only thing i don't get is that it still runs fine, no problems whatsoever. so what do you think, ring lands? possible something in the valvetrain or head. i need to let the garage know what i want to do.

First off don't assume you blew your engine just yet.... That is my personal recommendation... I just found out today that i tore my entire engine apart only due to a bent valve... I noticed oil in my exhaust outlets on my head... I would pull the head off and look around if you can...

are you using a catch can? maybe boosted air is getting into the valve cover and pushing air up. How is your valve cover getting vented? Sorry if this sounds like a noob answer

i don't have a catch can, but still it is blowing out way to much for that. like i said 4 qts in 50 miles.

Originally posted by nosdeclipse
i don't have a catch can, but still it is blowing out way to much for that. like i said 4 qts in 50 miles.

get a big catch can

Just run your lines into a catch can and drill another hole in you pan to run a line from the bottom of the catch can. Now you can recycle your oil.:thumbsup What have you done that could have blown the motor?

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4 quarts in 50 miles is way too much. Catch can won't solve the problem. Somehow, you are getting excessive crankcase pressure and its forcing the oil out. I would do a compression test ASAP on it, then go from there. Double check all your vac lines, and also the PCV valvle, to be sure thats working right. Check those and go from there. What does your boost gauge read at idle? Should be 17-19 Hg's of vac..Excessive crankcase pressure can also be caused by cracked ring langs, but if they are that bad, then the motor will be missfiring, have low vac at idle, and will show right away on the compression test. Could also be a head gasket. Cylinder pressure could be leaking into the oil gallerys, but thats less likely.

at idle i am at 20 vac. the car idles a little rough, shakes alot, but other than that it seems to run fine. i have to get it home and then check the compression. you can just watch the oil spray out of it. ^^ get a bigger catch can. SMART ASS. i can't fit a 5 gallon bucket under the hood :(

Sorry to hear it bro, hopefully your numbers will come out alright :(

Originally posted by extreme97nt
Just run your lines into a catch can and drill another hole in you pan to run a line from the bottom of the catch can. Now you can recycle your oil.:thumbsup

Sell your car. Please.

Sorry to hear it man. Are you on a stock block? If so I would bet my left nut that you broke a ring land.

Originally posted by DarkOne

Originally posted by extreme97nt Just run your lines into a catch can and drill another hole in you pan to run a line from the bottom of the catch can. Now you can recycle your oil.:thumbsup

Sell your car. Please.

LOL, I see Dino post to this and I'm thinking "Yes, finally, an answer to the question from one of the smartest guys on the board." and instead he's just being a smartass LOL

Pull out the dip stick for the engine oil, is it puffing while its running?

i'll have to check it tomorrow when i get it home. yeah dino, maybe i'll sell it and get a civic. yeah right.

Originally posted by nosdeclipse
yeah dino, maybe i'll sell it and get a civic. yeah right.

Wasn't talking to you, for the record. Just hijacking your thread to shoot down some ridiculous misinformation.

Anyway. if you're losing that much oil, you're either leaking at the high pressure feed to the turbo, or you have a cracked ringland. Does the car sound kinda one-off at idle? Have you done a compression test at all?

The rough idle and the excessive oil loss seems to be a sign of bad compression in the cylinder(s). At least that's how my car was when my stock ringlands/pistons cracked. Do a compression test.

fawk dammit, now you guys made me think I have a bad ringland. Fawk I don't want to pull the engine out anymore.

well, i checked today. smoke coming out of the dipstick hole. and yes, it does have a rough idle. well, i guess it is rebuild time, any advice?

Originally posted by nosdeclipse
well, i guess it is rebuild time, any advice?

dont go through fty. go straight through vt comp.

Originally posted by grain
dont go through fty. go straight through vt comp.

having fty issues?

well, fty is a joke. good luck getting ahold of anyone working there. i call vt comp, and get jeromy on the phone, and he answers questions. no point to fty that i can see. vt even said to just go through them. i got my block also.

thats too bad. i've heard nothing but good things from them.

Just in case though, have you done a compression test?

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Originally posted by DarkOne
Dino's dating tips, in 3 easy steps:
1) Club them over the head.
2) drag them home.
3) introduce myself in the morning.

really man, for some reason i dont feel bad for you. i usually do when people pop their motors.. however it seems that over the last week you rushed and rushed and rushed your work to get the car running and it doesn't really seem like you took the time to make sure everything was installed and setup properly.

Originally posted by siueclipse
really man, for some reason i dont feel bad for you. i usually do when people pop their motors.. however it seems that over the last week you rushed and rushed and rushed your work to get the car running and it doesn't really seem like you took the time to make sure everything was installed and setup properly.

Agreed. Future turbo Noobies, learn from this.

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Originally posted by DarkOne
Dino's dating tips, in 3 easy steps:
1) Club them over the head.
2) drag them home.
3) introduce myself in the morning.

that's kind of harsh. i did not rush my installation. i just did it straight through instead of a couple days and the waiting and doing some more. everything was installed correctly with exception of that fuse i overlooked. the reason it popped i believe was because #1 it was leaned out too much by the safc and #2 it spiked to about 12psi. i wasn't rushing, just excited. believe me, i did everything right.

not sure what other mods you got for fuel, but why have a afc leaned out at all? are you stage 1 or 2?
Michael
99gs HRC Stage 2000 8-Injector Setup
2004 Honda Accord V6 (240 hp)

Originally posted by pn0ymahal
not sure what other mods you got for fuel, but why have a afc leaned out at all? are you stage 1 or 2?

JEEZUZ FUCKING CHRIST!?!?! Did everyone forget how everyone used to run a turbo with bigger injectors and stock fuel pressure? Is anyone still here from 2+ years ago?

*sigh* <gives up> x(

I'm here. I remember :-)

Noobs don't.

Hey kids - you can run 440's with just an AFC and no SFMU. I made 302wHP setup like that. Suckers.

Originally posted by nosdeclipse
the reason it popped i believe was because #1 it was leaned out too much by the safc and #2 it spiked to about 12psi. i wasn't rushing, just excited. believe me, i did everything right.

Sound like premature boosting to me.

Finishing quick isn't a problem if done right. And the first thing to do isn't mach the pedal, run hell bent for leather at WOT. You need to ease in, and resist the temptation to beat the hell out of her right away. What caused yoru boost spike?



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Why did you hit 12psi? I told you when you installed the kit to baby the car for alittle and get the car running first and also see what psi you are at. I even asked you if you had ragged on the car yet and you said you hadn't. Since you had no idea what the boost is you need to ease into it and watch the boost gauge. Once it past 8psi I would of already shut down. No WOT until you know what boost you are running man. For whoever asked it's a Stage 1 w/ Starion FMIC (my old kit). Sorry that it's blown already but you need to take things slower. I was surprised to hear that you were going to run more boost then I did and if you blew the motor then, "o well I'll just rebuild it." Well now it's blown so isn't that what you thought would happen? Do a compression test first just to make sure. Even if compression is bad it still could be your headgasket. Good luck Mike.
-Dave

Puffing out the dipstick means cracked ring lands, probably caused by boost hitting 12 psi, with a leaned out SAFC which advanced the ignitiion timing too much, causing detonation. Just a guess :)

well, can you guys actually believe that my insurance company is probably going to cover this? i just got off the phone with them, and i need to call them back tomorrow to schedule an appointment with an adjustor. if they do, this is going to be great. built motor, lsd, clutch, sfmu, ud pulley, adjustable cams, and solid motor mounts, maybe a built head, depends on how much i get. wish me luck.

why would your insurance cover this? if they do they are on crack!
Michael
99gs HRC Stage 2000 8-Injector Setup
2004 Honda Accord V6 (240 hp)

let's just say, some creative story telling, we will leave it at that

WTF? Your insurance is covering it? What's the name of your company? I'll go out right now and blow my motor if I can get a rebuilt bottom end for free.

You realize if they cover you all of the turbo stock motor 2gnt's are going to run 20 psi and blow up their motors and soon everyone on here wil be built. Good luck getting insurance to cover it. I'm curious to here this "bs story" Hope it works
-Dave

insurance wont cover it. period. even if hell freezes over and they do cover it, youll probably just blow it up again.

furthermore.. its people like you who make everyone else's insurance go up. youre such an idiot. thanx for my insurance hike! $#%$#@%$#@

Technically were all *&$^$*#(@ unless we are actually calling our insurance companies telling them that we have taken our non-turbo DSM that is at a lower rate and modified it to make it turbo charged and double the hp of the initial quote we got. Although I don't know if the insurance company is really going to cover it.

Good luck man.

im suprised i havent blew mine yet. i know my boost goes up 12-15psi (stock block). i watch it and get off as soon as i see it, but im suprised it hasnt blew yet. o well..



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Dude, they may pay for it. But not if they see a turbo under the hood. Or any other major drivetrain modification for that matter.

Originally posted by nosdeclipse
well, can you guys actually believe that my insurance company is probably going to cover this? i just got off the phone with them, and i need to call them back tomorrow to schedule an appointment with an adjustor. if they do, this is going to be great. built motor, lsd, clutch, sfmu, ud pulley, adjustable cams, and solid motor mounts, maybe a built head, depends on how much i get. wish me luck.

You know another word for this is "fraud", right?

Why is everyone being so hard on the kid? I thought we are here to help not point out his every fault on the install. Jeesh....I am sorry everyone can't do everything right the first time around.


I hope it works out for you. IF you get it up and running again, take your time before turning up the boost. Does the logger work on the 420a engine also...if so i would get one.

"Why is everyone being so hard on the kid? I thought we are here to help not point out his every fault on the install. Jeesh....I am sorry everyone can't do everything right the first time around."

not to be a dick. but he blows his motor "somehow" and now wants the insurance to fix what he broke?? i dont think he learned anything. We are all here to help!
Michael
99gs HRC Stage 2000 8-Injector Setup
2004 Honda Accord V6 (240 hp)

Originally posted by pn0ymahal
"Why is everyone being so hard on the kid? I thought we are here to help not point out his every fault on the install. Jeesh....I am sorry everyone can't do everything right the first time around." not to be a dick. but he blows his motor "somehow" and now wants the insurance to fix what he broke?? i dont think he learned anything. We are all here to help! Michael 99gs HRC Stage 2000 8-Injector Setup 2004 Honda Accord V6 (240 hp)

well people try to get over in everyway possible. Its human nature.....