this is the guy iw as telling you guys about...he lives like 2 streets up and has a 271whp supercharged solara that just sounds beautiful!! anyway, he saw my hood open one day and we got to talking. i asked him if he could make a custom tubular manifold for my 16g and he replied "no problem!" so hopefully within the next few months/weeks i'll bring my car in and let them go to work :) look at the QUALITY of this guys craftsmanship!!!! fat fuckin flanges and pro fuckin welds. god im stoked.

best part he said he would show me the gains on a dyno, bwahaha!

edit: granted, these are just headers. its just to show you his work and what he does.


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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

DarkOne> Screw you guys, i'm going home.
chrysler kid> and fyi i have never HAD to shave.
DR1665> I'm sure your Talon and my Talon are all there needs to be, since we're the only two Talons that really matter around here

Originally posted by sarahdr1665
...some girls like the "nerdy" guys

we want pics if he does it. this guy could have alot of business from here if he does a good job

I agree with Uber on this one.....

What is the HP difference with a tubular manifold as opposed to a 'log' style as with the stock HRC and STAR kits?

hard to say HP numbers but a nicer and smoother spool up peroid would ensue

That looks like a very good TIG welding. I'm no pro, but I have read that the tubular design improves flow over cast or "log" designs. HP gain?...:shrug

:thumbsup

when the time comes, I'm going to get to know this guy fo sure

this was my manifold but it was stolen by The1bill . but the manifold showed a gain of 30whp on a neon.

thats just pretty.

the1bill stole your manny, thas fucked up, how did it happen, and what size turbo isi on that thing!

DWAYNE H
1996 eclipse
under construction widebody eclipse, targa top, 19inch rollers, big brakes, 10 point custom cage, frank 2.4 hrc s20g turbo, custom marble paint job

2000 Yamaha R-1, 165rwhp 117 ftlbs tq

ALMOST THERE...... MUWHAHAHAHAHAHA

its a 57trim t04e

lucky he didn't get his hands on both 57trims he has eagles_5's still that im replacing.

Turbo,
You need to tell this guy that I desperatly want a mani and new dp. Where do you live again?

Looks like quality work and design. Solid welds also. Id be interested in one as well if future development were to come...


*winter rebuild in process*
GST Muffler
injen short ram intake
magnecore 8.5mm wires
EGR removal/blockoff
front/rear strut tower bars
GSX dual piston calipers

patience my friends, something is in the works.

Originally posted by juggalo
this was my manifold but it was stolen by The1bill . but the manifold showed a gain of 30whp on a neon.

funny you say that, he stole my internals at one time. I was about to drive up there. Thank god for todd, he didnt want to see me drive up there.

So how did he steal these things? You should of went to his house and confronted him

did twice.. and hes 3000miles away.

sorry i'm late, juggalo is that manifold for our cars its beyond words where did you get it??

Originally posted by turbo8u
this is the guy iw as telling you guys about...he lives like 2 streets up and has a 271whp supercharged solara that just sounds beautiful!! anyway, he saw my hood open one day and we got to talking. i asked him if he could make a custom tubular manifold for my 16g and he replied "no problem!" so hopefully within the next few months/weeks i'll bring my car in and let them go to work :) look at the QUALITY of this guys craftsmanship!!!! fat fuckin flanges and pro fuckin welds. god im stoked. best part he said he would show me the gains on a dyno, bwahaha! edit: granted, these are just headers. its just to show you his work and what he does. _________ 96 talon esi-t san clemente, ca DarkOne> Screw you guys, i'm going home. chrysler kid> and fyi i have never HAD to shave. DR1665> I'm sure your Talon and my Talon are all there needs to be, since we're the only two Talons that really matter around here

Originally posted by sarahdr1665 ...some girls like the "nerdy" guys

ALL you fuckers have to wait for ME to get this MANNY MUAHAHAHAHA

actually i've been planning to make custom tubluar mani's for our car's to sell. We're in the process of buying equiptment right now.

Originally posted by redeclipset
actually i've been planning to make custom tubluar mani's for our car's to sell. We're in the process of buying equiptment right now.

SWEET I'll buy just make sure it's custom TUBULAR EQUAL LENGTH!

tubular equal length...yuuup. as soon as my cars back im bringing it in there for him to take a look at everything

skrilla and i will be sportin this beast first though ;) muhaha
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

equal length is actually not the best for a turbo car on paper it is but a directional like the one juggalo posted will spool faster becuase it is the shortest path possible for ait the manifold he posted was actualy tested on the phat rida race car and it picked up 25hp and some spool time over a true equal length manifold.


migh be something to think about equal length vers directional or shortest path with a good collector.

Originally posted by MotoFool
equal length is actually not the best for a turbo car on paper it is but a directional like the one juggalo posted will spool faster becuase it is the shortest path possible for ait the manifold he posted was actualy tested on the phat rida race car and it picked up 25hp and some spool time over a true equal length manifold. migh be something to think about equal length vers directional or shortest path with a good collector.

Yes and no!

Yes you want directional but no you don't want your exhaust pulses running into eachother, which the common directional will still do.

For us tubular equal length is best here is my reasoning

On equal length, the cylindrical pairs (cylinder 1 and 4, 2 and 3) pulse together which means that even with equal length you have pulses fighting eachother but it's only 2 pulses at a time (not really but I'm not getting into that topic) which is far less than all 4 like the STAR and HRC kit (really HRC's is not as bad but quite restrictive at the turbo inlet - still I prefer this one of the two kits though).
You want the runner length all different (almost unnoticeable when you look at them) but then the runners have to be tuned to a particular rpm, otherwise they will still fight run into one another. So the next best thing for the street is tubular directional equal length unless someone here can afford tuned mannies (ya right!). For the most part all equal length tubulars are directional. The NER manny was/is and so was the Rev hard. The next best ones are from fast fab which actually appear to be superior.


RANT

- WHAT THE FUCK - why does the Hahn RaceCraft manifolds use fuckin allen bolts, that is the dumbest fuckin thing I've ever seen in my life:thumbsdown Allens are FAR easier to strip that bolts-WTF-:nono
Use regular fuckin bolts. Besides the craptech this is the 1st thing I'd replace

END RANT

Anyway HRC's kit is still the shit.

Originally posted by Skrilla WHAT THE FUCK - why does the Hahn RaceCraft manifolds use fuckin allen bolts, that is the dumbest fuckin thing I've ever seen in my life:thumbsdown Allens are FAR easier to strip that bolts-WTF-:nono Use regular fuckin bolts. Besides the craptech this is the 1st thing I'd replace END RANT

Because HRC chose #1 - If you want it cheap and fast, it's not going to be good.

You can't fit the factory bolts on there (wouldn't want to anyways) so I think HRC went down to Home Depot one day and found out that they only stock metric sizes in a hex head and bolt head and went with the hex cause they fit better.

I got the nice hardened 8mm studs and nuts for a 4g63, which fit perfectly and have yet to break one. This would be AFTER cutting the goddamn stripped hex bolts out with a dremel and impact wrench with 8 attachments (don't ask).

Originally posted by thedawg

Originally posted by Skrilla WHAT THE FUCK - why does the Hahn RaceCraft manifolds use fuckin allen bolts, that is the dumbest fuckin thing I've ever seen in my life:thumbsdown Allens are FAR easier to strip that bolts-WTF-:nono Use regular fuckin bolts. Besides the craptech this is the 1st thing I'd replace END RANT

Because HRC chose #1 - If you want it cheap and fast, it's not going to be good. You can't fit the factory bolts on there (wouldn't want to anyways) so I think HRC went down to Home Depot one day and found out that they only stock metric sizes in a hex head and bolt head and went with the hex cause they fit better. I got the nice hardened 8mm studs and nuts for a 4g63, which fit perfectly and have yet to break one. This would be AFTER cutting the goddamn stripped hex bolts out with a dremel and impact wrench with 8 attachments (don't ask).

HAHAHA fooker!! I only used 4 tools, a die grinder with cutoff wheel, hammer, chisel and crowbar. Ya it's funny how many bolts are interchangeable:wary

EDIT: And I have PICS! That fuckin bolt got OWNED!

^^^ pics please :thumbsup



Nick
97RS

turbo8u> shut your SUCK
ZAO684: NIPPLE warning...maybe>?
turbo8u> yea i was a window licker on the short bus in junior high

My hrc mani owned a bolt last weekend! Poped the head right off it! Now i have a set of studs coming from arp.

yea after all that bullshit the next day i fuckin went up there and settled it. 4g63 studs. the only part interchangeable, lol. at least i dont have to worry about it now.

skrilla, post that picture
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

shoot even the STAR bolts break, grade 8 my ass.

Just order some SS studs, grade 10...yumm 12 didnt come in a SS finish.

This is a really good looking design....I have a 95 gs with a hrc 16g and Im in Fl.....how much would one cost??? am extremely interested

UPDATE:

he told me he would work me out a deal for somewhere between 800-1000 bucks, ouch i know. he just did a twin turbo manifold for a v12 jag actually and that manifold costed over 8K, he's working on Turner Motorsports championship winning M3 and he wont even tell me how much thats costing

when its all said and done, im getting a tubular equal length manifold for my 16/20g
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

Originally posted by turbo8u
UPDATE: he told me he would work me out a deal for somewhere between 800-1000 bucks, ouch i know. he just did a twin turbo manifold for a v12 jag actually and that manifold costed over 8K, he's working on Turner Motorsports championship winning M3 and he wont even tell me how much thats costing when its all said and done, im getting a tubular equal length manifold for my 16/20g _________ 96 talon esi-t san clemente, ca as needles of ice are the ill winds' talons the coldest of shadows they seep unto the bone

yeah....talk about ouch. I could buy a lot more than just a mani with that price.

Originally posted by hunntyr

Originally posted by turbo8u UPDATE: he told me he would work me out a deal for somewhere between 800-1000 bucks, ouch i know. he just did a twin turbo manifold for a v12 jag actually and that manifold costed over 8K, he's working on Turner Motorsports championship winning M3 and he wont even tell me how much thats costing when its all said and done, im getting a tubular equal length manifold for my 16/20g _________ 96 talon esi-t san clemente, ca as needles of ice are the ill winds' talons the coldest of shadows they seep unto the bone

yeah....talk about ouch. I could buy a lot more than just a mani with that price.

EXACTLY, besides the FastFad manny is pretty fuckin sweet

EDIT: check this out

working out a deal at this point.

he does some SERIOUS work. thats for sure.

google: "JP performance"
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

note the manifold skrilla posted is nickel coated.

fast fabs manifold needs slim radiator fans also.

does nickel coating help with anything? other than making it look purty

jason no longer coats them. and it didnt really help anything but the looks. i own this manifold. the wastegate neck needed to be closer to the collector on one i received. it wouldnt clear the water neck. i had it relocated. the mani is nice, it needs support from the bottom though. it does need slim line fans on the radiatior and one crazy dp config. you either need to get rid of the ac or get a very tight radius bend to make it work w/ the dp. i had to bend my ac line slightly to keep it away from the heat. i plan on having it ceremic coated during the winter time, it is a nice mani. the above one here looks pretty tight. i'd be interested to see how well it fits w/ everything in the bay. ie starter and whatnot. keep us posted.