i recently purchased a used big 16g, and it needs a little work.. more shaft play than i want to mess around with, and i figured why not do whatever i can to make it all it can be...

any suggestions??

thanks!!

jason

send it in to hrc and get it converted to a 20g, with new internals for 400 bux

DWAYNE H
1996 eclipse
under construction widebody eclipse, targa top, 19inch rollers, big brakes, 10 point custom cage, frank 2.4 hrc s20g turbo, custom marble paint job

2000 Yamaha R-1, 165rwhp 117 ftlbs tq

Yup, a rebuilt alone can cost up to $250, why not just pay $400 to have it converted to a 20G!:thumbsup

keep in mind that the hrc turbos do have some shaft play.. oil goes around the shaft to keep it staight.

its only $400 to convert it? i thought it was more around $700.



14.5 @ 95mph / 7psi 185hp/180tq :thumbsdown

3 inch downpipe and/or turn up the boost

how much power do you want to make? no use in spending the money on a 20g if you're not even going to use it to its full potential imo
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san clemente, ca

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Originally posted by sarahdr1665
...some girls like the "nerdy" guys

Originally posted by thegame
its only $400 to convert it?

Yup, if you send your turbo them, they'll convert it to a 20G.

well, i may go with the 20g option. i am actually using this for a big project i have with a dodge avenger. using the 4g63 and the awd drive train swapping it all into my avenger.

and that car is heavier so i will need as much as i can get to make it go good.

other things i will be doing include bigger injectors, fmic, equal lenth header, high pressure fuel pump, then when i get everything done and in the avenger, i will start building a 6 bolt for it while i am using the 7 bolt.

sounds fun huh??

jason........ by the way, what kind of lag would the 20g give me in comparison to the 16g???

thanks

Originally posted by jasonlee
well, i may go with the 20g option. i am actually using this for a big project i have with a dodge avenger. using the 4g63 and the awd drive train swapping it all into my avenger. and that car is heavier so i will need as much as i can get to make it go good. other things i will be doing include bigger injectors, fmic, equal lenth header, high pressure fuel pump, then when i get everything done and in the avenger, i will start building a 6 bolt for it while i am using the 7 bolt. sounds fun huh?? jason........ by the way, what kind of lag would the 20g give me in comparison to the 16g??? thanks

thats a nightmare waiting to happen my friend. dont even attempt to make a 4g63 avenger AWD.

16g supports around 450hp i *think* if you're not going to go over that, dont upgrade the turbo. you will be wasting the 400 when you could have used that on a sick ass downpipe and ported exhaust manifold or something


think logically here, if you have a turbo...you can make power with that



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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

DarkOne> Screw you guys, i'm going home.
chrysler kid> and fyi i have never HAD to shave.
DR1665> I'm sure your Talon and my Talon are all there needs to be, since we're the only two Talons that really matter around here

Originally posted by sarahdr1665
...some girls like the "nerdy" guys

I agree with ^^^. don't upgrade the turbo until you've reached the full potential of the one you have (or plan on reaching it soon)

Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by jasonlee well, i may go with the 20g option. i am actually using this for a big project i have with a dodge avenger. using the 4g63 and the awd drive train swapping it all into my avenger. and that car is heavier so i will need as much as i can get to make it go good. other things i will be doing include bigger injectors, fmic, equal lenth header, high pressure fuel pump, then when i get everything done and in the avenger, i will start building a 6 bolt for it while i am using the 7 bolt. sounds fun huh?? jason........ by the way, what kind of lag would the 20g give me in comparison to the 16g??? thanks

thats a nightmare waiting to happen my friend. dont even attempt to make a 4g63 avenger AWD. 16g supports around 450hp i *think* if you're not going to go over that, dont upgrade the turbo. you will be wasting the 400 when you could have used that on a sick ass downpipe and ported exhaust manifold or something think logically here, if you have a turbo...you can make power with that _________ 96 talon esi-t san clemente, ca DarkOne> Screw you guys, i'm going home. chrysler kid> and fyi i have never HAD to shave. DR1665> I'm sure your Talon and my Talon are all there needs to be, since we're the only two Talons that really matter around here

Originally posted by sarahdr1665 ...some girls like the "nerdy" guys

16g power falls way off around 325-350 on our motors. why not run a 20g, the star kit utilizes a t3t4. which in theroy a average turbo 2gnt will never use that turbos full potenital:shrug


DWAYNE H
1996 eclipse
under construction widebody eclipse, targa top, 19inch rollers, big brakes, 10 point custom cage, frank 2.4 hrc s20g turbo, custom marble paint job

2000 Yamaha R-1, 165rwhp 117 ftlbs tq

Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by jasonlee well, i may go with the 20g option. i am actually using this for a big project i have with a dodge avenger. using the 4g63 and the awd drive train swapping it all into my avenger. and that car is heavier so i will need as much as i can get to make it go good. other things i will be doing include bigger injectors, fmic, equal lenth header, high pressure fuel pump, then when i get everything done and in the avenger, i will start building a 6 bolt for it while i am using the 7 bolt. sounds fun huh?? jason........ by the way, what kind of lag would the 20g give me in comparison to the 16g??? thanks

thats a nightmare waiting to happen my friend. dont even attempt to make a 4g63 avenger AWD. 16g supports around 450hp i *think* if you're not going to go over that, dont upgrade the turbo. you will be wasting the 400 when you could have used that on a sick ass downpipe and ported exhaust manifold or something think logically here, if you have a turbo...you can make power with that _________ 96 talon esi-t san clemente, ca DarkOne> Screw you guys, i'm going home. chrysler kid> and fyi i have never HAD to shave. DR1665> I'm sure your Talon and my Talon are all there needs to be, since we're the only two Talons that really matter around here

Originally posted by sarahdr1665 ...some girls like the "nerdy" guys

ok... i have already started on the project.. i have a donor gsx, have all the info i need to get it done, and have the turbo. all it needs now is to get in there with a torch, welder, and make it happen... only big change comming is a lengthened driveshaft due to the avenger being longer, and the engine mounts being swapped... the wiring is no problem, all i gotta do is use the whole harness from the eclipse, and that all will work no problem.

also i have an equal length header already that i am gonna mod, and port myself, and i have a ported 02 housing comming soon.

with bigger injectors, high pressure fuel pump, and a few other upgrades here and there.....

the question is still there... big16g rebuild kit or convert to 20g??????

send it to any large turbo manufacturer and have 18g internals installed if you want a sleeper.





remember guys hrc uses a t3 flange and a normal 16g does not.

so hrc may not take the turbo becuase its nota SUPER16g

so.. 18g then... hmm.. any idea the cost of something like that?? also got any good suggestions where it should be sent to??

thanks!

jason

http://linux.forcedperformance.net/merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FP&Product_Code=NTDSMFPSleeper16G

Most powerful 16G on the planet(commercially available).

I would just send it to HRC or another vendor and have it converted to a 20g. The sleeper is for those trying to claim they run a 16g.

make sure HRC will even take it since they deal with s16g that super not small

which have a garret t3 exhaust housing.


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