I just got an email from Bill he wants to give me a call and discuss my fuel needs. Any one else get a e-mail yet?

best time so far 14.3 @ 101.1mph

i'll believe it when i see it

-------jezreel
hrc stage 1, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, costum dp, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler

nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!
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Hello! You had expressed an interest in the thread where we spoke of our Eclipse RS running 10.87 @ 136 MPH. I would like to give you a phone call this week to discuss your needs relative to our new equipment. Would you be so kind as to provide a phone number and a good time to call? Boost It! Bill


best time so far 14.3 @ 101.1mph

Originally posted by extreme97nt
Hello! You had expressed an interest in the thread where we spoke of our Eclipse RS running 10.87 @ 136 MPH. I would like to give you a phone call this week to discuss your needs relative to our new equipment. Would you be so kind as to provide a phone number and a good time to call? Boost It! Bill best time so far 14.3 @ 101.1mph

I have the same one. I wish he would just post about it, so we could all discuss it.

i got it to.

Originally posted by jsupetran
i'll believe it when i see it

ditto.

keep us posted

why would bill from HRC use an email address of: eng@turbosystems.com?????

why not post here?

NEVERMIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just spoke with chris at HRC and he said its legit! its bill from the ENGineering dept!!!! hummmm

ill give'm a number!

tell him to frigging post here. you know half of us are gonna end up buying it anyway.


-------jezreel
hrc stage 1, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, costum dp, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler

nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!
thanks for www.kaptainmyke.com for the sig hosting :thumbsup

Since it was never discussed, i came up with what i thought could be an adequate solution, and perhaps what HRC was building, in my head. I've discussed it with a few people, and i am very curious to see if i was close or not. When somone talks to Bill, please let me know the details, or let him know that i'd like to talk to him about it.

Dino If you dont mind I would like to hear your ideas. You can E-mail me if you would like at paulmummolo@comcast.net If not, its ok I understand.

best time so far 14.3 @ 101.1mph

im sorry, dino cant tell you his plans. they are top secret. :-) LOL.

Yeah more info will be good. Still trying to decide on a fuel system for my car.

get the hell outta here...I hope it's an EIC:thumbsup

WTF?!? I'm in the process of doing my fuel setup now. Might be a good idea to let us all know whats up.


Nick
97RS

turbo8u> shut your SUCK
ZAO684: NIPPLE warning...maybe>?
turbo8u> yea i was a window licker on the short bus in junior high

I have been waiting and waiting for what seems like years for the Stage III + kits and I have money burning a hole in my pocket, but I didnt get an email. I just want to go fast is that too much to ask.

I got the mail also, looks like there is light at the end of the tunnel....WOOHOO!!!!:thumbsup

i got it also. hummm........



14.5 @ 95mph / 7psi 185hp/180tq :thumbsdown

piss. i didn't get anything, and i've been trying to solve myu fuel pump problems for a year now. OLh well, i'm going my own way.



Jon

1997 Eclipse RS

13.887@104.648 5/30/03

www.haiokuracing.com

Well when it turns out to me a rising rate regulator just like the one from Chill Factory.... (Who also have some kick ass 420A numbers floating out there)..... I'll be laughing....lol

Seriously though, I hope the price is comparable to the CF.....
:thumbsup

let us know Bill. I'm tired of misfires from running rich straight out of the hole.

yeah got the same email.. hope he posts here though. and yeah dinos idea is a good way to have a simple (idiot proof) fuel solution for our turbo set ups.

I got an email from Bill also, I have not spoke with him yet.

well holyshitballs, yea HRC way to update us on this! lol, not like you were telling us it was going to available in JULY....

keep me updated too :thumbsup, im still very interested in this fuel system
_________
96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

DarkOne> Screw you guys, i'm going home.
chrysler kid> and fyi i have never HAD to shave.
DR1665> I'm sure your Talon and my Talon are all there needs to be, since we're the only two Talons that really matter around here

Originally posted by sarahdr1665
...some girls like the "nerdy" guys

Everyone's getting these emails!!!! I got my kit via Howell Automotive and I posted in the 10.8 thread, yet no email to me! :-( I'm sad! I'm about to redo my fuel setup as well and I would like ALL my options before I decide on teh best route! Help us out! Bill, if you're reading this, please, drop me an email @ Jeremy.Sturm@cox.net or Jeremy.Sturm@ssa.gov ASAP!

What is up with HRC? I mean, do they not want to post because they don't think they will keep up with initial demand? Are they looking for people to test the new fuel system before releasing it to everyone? They have to know there are tons of people on this board just waiting for the fuel system to come out. Why only talk to a few people first when they can reach so many more by just making an informative post?

i think this whole thing is too much hype and BS, whatever stuff. all this fuel system hype is a bunch of crap. i bet is something as simple as what everyone has been doing. the 10sec passes was done out of time,practice and lots of nitrous. look at many cars that are doing 10sec passes and check out their fuels systems, they're gonna be similar to what HRC is doing. Mr. Hahn is just a good tuner and if you look at his mods, it's almost as equal to a stage 3 system. he's got lots of experience on the track and lots of techniques which got him there. especially with 150shot. i'll just stick to learning on my own. eventually, one of us, can be at that level and do 10's without nitrous. don't get me wrong, you have to have adequte fuel to run that much power, but still i consider it as too much hype. if he has a way to make bigger injectors work with our stock computers, and i'm tallking about 600cc plus injectors and not having a timing issue, then i'll be impressed. other than that, i think it's pretty much what others here have. we'll see.

Some guys i think are gonna be real disappointed when they FINALLY tell what the fuel system is i think. Jeez, youd think they re-invented the wheel or something. Just tell us what it is for gods sake. I, for one, am not holding my breath.

1999 Black C5
1997 Silver RS
Wiseco 8.8:1 Pistons(back to low compression!)
Eagle Rods
T3/T4 Turbo
Custom FMIC
Greddy Exhaust
390's
Most current 1/8th mile time: 8.3@90mph 2.015 60'(Nitto Drag radials, i suck)

I agree this is rediculous. I for one am just going to keep on trying to perfect it the old fasion way with the same components as half the people on this board. Until I see some pics and prices.

i for one would much rather wait till enough people have tried the system and have read their feedback and any issues they encounter. i'd rather not be the 2gnt guinie pig :)

-------jezreel
hrc stage 1, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, costum dp, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler

nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!
thanks for www.kaptainmyke.com for the sig hosting :thumbsup

Well, I was on the phone with HRC for a while becuase of my Cartach FPR being crappy and rising too much. They say the Cartach that comes with the Stage 1/2 kits is CALIBRATED for stock injectors, NOT LARGER. Even though they "say" it can go down to 5:1, 8:1, etc. rate, it CANNOT. My problem is that my fuel pressure us set to 20-22psi @ idle, but when I hit 0in/Hg, the pressure is up to 47-50psi. NOT GOOD. They suggested going BACK to stock injectors for 10psi and I'll be fine. So, upgrading to a S-FMU and using larger injectors witha different disk is the ONLY way to use larger injectors and a rising rate FPR (unless you go stand alone, EIC, Muga Squirt, etc).

Now, for the "fun", interesting news. I got them to tell me what the new Stage 3/4 fuel system is, you're NOT gonna be happy. For those of you that have upgraded to the Vortech S-FMU and larger injectors, KEEP IT. HRC's "new and improved" fuel system is this: either 30 or 36lb injectors and a "recalibrated" FPR. THAT'S IT! This is what we've been waiting for? WTF?!?! I'm NOT impressed. This further pushes me to the 034EIC route.

So, to get my car running better and not blowing black smoke, I'm considering going BACK to my stock injectors, lowering my boost to 8-10psi (for the time being), building up my 8-injector setup, and then tuning for 12-15psi. Ugh, what a headache! But yeah, for those of you anxious for the HRC setup, consider yourself informed/warned. I hope I haven't let a cat out of the bag, but I just thought yall would want to know what to expect. Enjoy!

Originally posted by PiKapp504
Now, for the "fun", interesting news. I got them to tell me what the new Stage 3/4 fuel system is, you're NOT gonna be happy. For those of you that have upgraded to the Vortech S-FMU and larger injectors, KEEP IT. HRC's "new and improved" fuel system is this: either 30 or 36lb injectors and a "recalibrated" FPR. THAT'S IT! This is what we've been waiting for? WTF?!?! I'm NOT impressed.

This is not true, that only applys to the stage 2 kit. Their are 2 other electronic systems he will be offering. One of the 2 is thier own design. I don't know the details, but Bill will release everything when he is comfortable doing so.

Originally posted by DarkOne
Since it was never discussed, i came up with what i thought could be an adequate solution, and perhaps what HRC was building, in my head. I've discussed it with a few people, and i am very curious to see if i was close or not. When somone talks to Bill, please let me know the details, or let him know that i'd like to talk to him about it.

I missed his call yesterday.

Dino is it okay for me to give Bill your cell number to call you?



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I missed his calls yesterday also. I have lost intrest at this point. I believe the EIC is doing a perfect job, I wouldn't trade it for a rising rate fpr in a million years.

PiKapp504: DO NOT run more than 8 psi on stock injectors. Your not going to spray any more fuel after 100 psi of fuel pressure. 100 psi of liquid? That's a lot of pressure for a fluid, you can only squeeze so much fuel through those injectors. I believe you can lower the rate of the cartech, but you need to put a smaller disk in it. I would just pickup a SFMU and keep your larger injectors in the car. I wouldn't believe the differance the sfmu makes over the cartech.

the only reason I'm sticking with the Cartech is because I can't justify spending $250 for an S-FMU when I'm building up an 8-injector setup. Maybe I'll lower it to 7-8psi for the time being then, with stock injectors, build the 8-injector setup, and then tune for 13-15psi. What do you think?

If I were you, I would wait for the new stuff from HRC. I spoke with Bill Jr. and he has some very cool stuff on the horizon. I'm sure he will post all the specifics when everything is ready. I'll just say he has addressed everyones conecrns, and has developed some very cool things. Both electrical and mechanical products that will be released as he is sure they are easy to install and tweaked for street use. This isn't just a fuel system, he has a lot of new stuff coming out and stability updates to the early stage kits.

Keep your pants on! It's on the way.

Originally posted by Michael_97RS

Originally posted by DarkOne Since it was never discussed, i came up with what i thought could be an adequate solution, and perhaps what HRC was building, in my head. I've discussed it with a few people, and i am very curious to see if i was close or not. When somone talks to Bill, please let me know the details, or let him know that i'd like to talk to him about it.

I missed his call yesterday. Dino is it okay for me to give Bill your cell number to call you?

Always. it's Bill, c'mon now. I talked to him yesterday though, but thanks!

Originally posted by DarkOne

Originally posted by Michael_97RS

Originally posted by DarkOne Since it was never discussed, i came up with what i thought could be an adequate solution, and perhaps what HRC was building, in my head. I've discussed it with a few people, and i am very curious to see if i was close or not. When somone talks to Bill, please let me know the details, or let him know that i'd like to talk to him about it.

I missed his call yesterday. Dino is it okay for me to give Bill your cell number to call you?

Always. it's Bill, c'mon now. I talked to him yesterday though, but thanks!

I didn't think it would be an issue or a problem. I just didn't want to assume.



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Well, Bill contacted me today and whe had an hour long conversation. He is a great guy and hi has great ideas for his fuel systems. I am going to be respectful and keep my mouth shut. He will bring his ideas public once the time is right.

best time so far 14.3 @ 101.1mph

ok? so did he say when he would make this announcement? how much longer do we have to wait? sorry, impatient. im getting ready to up the boost, and need to know what to buy for my fuel system.



14.5 @ 95mph / 7psi 185hp/180tq :thumbsdown

Since everybody has different ideas about what parts are coming out, let me give my thoughts. In the July 2003 issue of Import Tuner, the company Rev Hard had a Civic turbo kit featured. One of the great things about the kit is you would not need a bigger fuel pump or FMU to get additional fuel.The kit came with bigger injectors and a MAGIC black box. The black box allows the the injectors to idle like the were from the factory, and provide additional fuel by MAP sensor modification.The box gets a vacuum source hooked to it,and get tapped into the ECU for a map sensor, tach signal, power, and ground. This also sounds like how That Cybernations black box worked for the hondas and Acuras that was posted a while back. What does everybody think.

It's something to the effect of an electronic injector controller. I just don't know any specifics.

If you want plug and play parts wait for hahn. If you understand what your doing and can do things yourself go for it.

Bill wants to do this ona customer by customer basis. if you're interested in the fuel system or in discussing potential fuel solutions for your Hp goals, just call him - he loves to talk with his customers. he's a cool guy.

so is hahn NOT going to have a big launch with this fuel system and it will not have the "availability" of the stage 1 and 2 kits? meaning, in the future, i can't just go to the site and order it.

anyone know how much will this cost? i think that's what many of us are wondering.


-------jezreel
hrc stage 1, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, costum dp, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler

nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!
thanks for www.kaptainmyke.com for the sig hosting :thumbsup

Originally posted by jsupetran
meaning, in the future, i can't just go to the site and order it.

You are putting things out there that I did not say. All i said was that right now, he'd like to do this on a customer by customer basis. He has his own reasons for this. I cannot speak for Bill and won't. Just call and talk to him - he loves to hear from us.

I talked to Bill earlier tonight. As ive said before, hes a terreffic guy, and his customer service is reason enough to buy his kits for those looking at getting boosted.

Like Dino said, hes interested in doing this on a customer-by-customer basis. He actually went to my website before calling me to see exactly where i was at currently. He also has very good reasons for not releasing everything out there before the right time.

But seriously, if your interested in the new fuel setup or anything hahn or turbo related, give the man a call. He seems to truely enjoy hearing back from us.

Got my call today also. We talked at length about the new stuff and also about my needs. I think it is great that he is taking this much time to call everyone associated with the thread and get some talking done. We discussed alot of things and I can;t wait to see what comes next, lots of goodies in the works though...

Bill...:thumbsup

i think at this point from just the phone tag we have been playing, im gonna be a buying customer whatever the hell it is! i hopefully will talk to him tomorrow AM!!!

can you guys give some info like if its like a 8-injector setup, or just like a super fmu, along with bigger injectors with a program afc type ??? i was sopose to call him today but i called to late, but i hope to call him next week sometime to find out more...
Michael
99gs HRC Stage 2000 8-Injector Setup
2004 Honda Accord V6

wow...this is all pretty cloke and dagger....it's really raising my curiosity and interest. But that's probably partitally the point. I'm definately going to have to get a hold of them now...LOL

I'm interested. The only issued i have with my fuel system is being lean during partial throttle boost. I will give him a call next week.

im waiting until it is included with a kit.....i am not boosted yet either. :-)

If you cant fine tune boosted fuel maps like the 034, then I dont want it! :o I really don't understand the secrecy of all this..Waiting for a patent or something? I'm pretty much set on doing the 034 8 injector setup, unless this new system is laptop programable, for boosted fuel maps...I would call, or have them call me, but i'm just too damn swamped at work to even talk..

He told me the new fuel system is an electronic solution. Matt give him a call, I'm sure he would love to talk about it. He knew I'm using the 034eic but still called me to talk about all the new stuff in the works. Give em' a ring.

He will also fill you in on some other things also. I learned ALOT of things talking with him yesterday. We even discussed the 8 injector setup and the difference between how the 034 controls it and the DFI does. Very interesting stuff. Can;t wait to get my hands on the goodies to finish off my fuel system now...

Once agian Bill, thanks for all the info and support :thumbsup

Just dig a little... there's a tidbit of info in the website.

boosted 420a and ej2o..(my 2liter v8 eaters)

Originally posted by run4cvr
I'm interested. The only issued i have with my fuel system is being lean during partial throttle boost. I will give him a call next week.

i think that's a problem associated with the TPS sensor... most of pictures are long gone, but i still have the hardware and the schematic in my box of expermental 2GNT goodies along with some DIY-WB stuff and some DVM stuff.
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=50708&mesg_id=50708&listing_type=search

i still have this thing in my car, but i haven't finished development yet. i'm lazy and haven't found time to solving the problem with the circuit tripping the voltage to 5 volts instead of 3.8 which is what the PCM expects as "100% throttle". i think that i need to add another ground connection somewhere in the resistor bank.