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59895, fuel pressure (bought the SFMU FROM BILL - MOTOFOOL)
Posted by gilee_8, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Sup guys.
AGAIN guys... I NEED HELP!!! My fuel pressure WON"T GO DOWN STILL.
I finished all intercooler piping... all I need is the stupid fuel pressure.
(just to make sure, I disabled FPR, walbro 255HP, stock injectors)

OK..this is what I observed from experiment... Tell me what you think!
1) turning the top screw in or out (from all out to most in, the fuel pressure only changes 1 PSI the Most (if I see it right it goes from 55PSI to like 55.5 or 56PSI) so screw or unscrew it don't do anything except 1PSI the most.
2) when I opened the top lid of the SFMU and and just leave it open, then start the car, it's at 60PSI, which when I unhook the vaccum hose, it will go to 60PSI so basically even if I take over EVERYTHING, no disk, no spring no top lid... it still stay the same basically.
3) I unhooked the return fuel line and run it to a bucket, and the fuel pressure still 55PSI so it must not be the bad return line.
4) I finally take off EVERYTHING, and let the SFMU holding by my friend, and all the fuel line is straight down to the fuel rail and etc, and it still stay at 55PSI

NOW guys... what you guys think?? anything else other then that Bill (motofool) gave me a bad SFMU? I bought it brand new from him for $295 and now I put it on, and this is my problem.

Plesae tell me guys.
And BILL (motofool) can you give me some of your opinion also?
I will later just ask someone (hopefully I find one) their SFMU and put it in, if it works, then Bill, I want an exchange of another SFMU.
Thanks guys.
Gil

Please give me all your insights.
59896, RE: fuel pressure (bought the SFMU FROM BILL - MOTOFOOL)
Posted by grain, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
um... you disabled the stock fpr?
how you do that?, it should be a line from the pump to the fuel rail. with maybe a fuel filter inbetween. i dunno what exactly you got.
59898, RE: fuel pressure (bought the SFMU FROM BILL - MOTOFOOL)
Posted by gilee_8, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
again and again... I have a 1995...just don't worry about the stock FPR... I am sure sure sure that I taken care of that stock FPR.
So other then the STOCK FPR.... what can it be?? is it that my SFMU is broken?

Please I need information.
And Bill, can you reply to give some insight on this?
I need help? and I got it from you man.... any tech support?
Gil
59899, RE: fuel pressure (bought the SFMU FROM BILL - MOTOFOOL)
Posted by dougie2, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
It's either the stock FPR or the S-FMU that's causing the problem. Start by testing the S-FMU to find your problem.
59913, RE: fuel pressure (bought the SFMU FROM BILL - MOTOFOOL)
Posted by gilee_8, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Thanks...
How do I check my SFMU?

So I do'nt think Bill will reply me?
Does he actually cares about what he sold to others?

59914, RE: fuel pressure (bought the SFMU FROM BILL - MOTOFOOL)
Posted by CrashedMax, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
have you ran your new return line yet to see if that helps? Let me know how it goes when you install your 30# injectors we got. I'll be installing my SFMU & injectors in the next month so I'll be researching what needs to be done for tuning.
59915, RE: fuel pressure (bought the SFMU FROM BILL - MOTOFOOL)
Posted by gilee_8, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
well, as I said,
I tried unhooking the return line and redirect it DIRECTLY to a bucket...so doesn't matter whta the stock return fuel line was..coz I DO"NT EVEN use it... And the pressure is still 55PSI... no matter what.... and eve nI turn the top lid screw.... all the way in or all the way out... still only 55PSI (I didn't turn all the way in...) don't want to damage it.

So help me guys!
Gil
59916, RE: fuel pressure (bought the SFMU FROM BILL - MOTOFOOL)
Posted by CrashedMax, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
hmmm that's weird. I'm by far an expert but maybe when you put the 30# injectors in and change the disc it'll work for ya....???
59922, RE: fuel pressure (bought the SFMU FROM BILL - MOTOFOOL)
Posted by jsupetran, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
why don't you swap sfmu with a fellow turbo 2gnt; maybe its broken?

it seems like you've gone through the gauntlet of possible causes.

-------jezreel
hrc stage 1, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, costum dp, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler


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59925, RE: fuel pressure (bought the SFMU FROM BILL - MOTOFOOL)
Posted by redeclipset, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
alright where's your fuel pressure gauge hooked up. Also did you take out the valve thing on the fuel rail. I don't know much about the 1995 fuel system. The fuel pressure sensor should be in between the fuel rail and the sfmu i believe. Even though the pressure is high does the engine still run right. It could be the gauge. I just installed my sfmu and am installing my turbo kit but i haven't got a fuel gauge so sorry if this doesn't help. One more thing where'd you get that intercooler and what size is it?
59934, VERY UPDATES ON MY TURBO (FIRST TIME BOOSTING) !!
Posted by gilee_8, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Got it on Ebay..brand new Speacro.

OK GUYS

IT BOOST>..and IT IS SO DAMN FUN...NO I know what you guys mean...
:7 :7 :7 :7 SO DAMN FUN..... OH SHIT...all I have is a HUGE SMILE on my face...HAAHAA...and all the people on the street is looking at me.

Anyway...I HAVE HUGE PROBLEM.
I think the reason my fuel pressure never go down below 55PSI, coz my SFMU is broken. I am not sure still.
Coz now...even when I am boosting to 4PSI (my current wastegate limit) the fuel gauge still read 60 PSI.. and one update...now my idle fuel pressure is 60PSI also..>NO LOWER.

I do'nt get it.... I am boosting at 4PSI with intercooler and my fuel pressure is still 60PSI...VERY LOW...I am so worried about detonation.but I AM SO ADDICTED to boosting...GOD you guys won't konw how it feels... SO NICE...... STILL VERY HYPER about it.. .HAAHAA...

ANYWAY guys...now I will HOLD my self not to boost and fix the fuel... PLEASE..... even with boost it still read at 60PSI...is that mean my SFMU is FUCKED???

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IMPORTANT...does any turbo changered eclipse with SFMU is around ALBANY NY area??? I want to change my SFMU to see if it works.
THanks.

59935, RE: VERY UPDATES ON MY TURBO (FIRST TIME BOOSTING) !!
Posted by jsupetran, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
make sure is it not the fuel pressure gauge that's broken and DON'T BOOST until every issue has been worked out. if the fuel pressure gauge is fine, then call vortech about a warranty.

-------jezreel
hrc stage 1, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, costum dp, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler


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59948, RE: VERY UPDATES ON MY TURBO (FIRST TIME BOOSTING) !!
Posted by gilee_8, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
If I ask Vortech for warrenty, what will it take?
Will it take forever?
Will they give me a new one?
I didn't buy it from them...will I still get the warrenty?
THanks guys.
GIl

SO, does anyone around my area? Albany NY?

BTW... you guys konw if any local stores have FUEL PRESSURE gauge?
I need to get another one to see if my is broken...
I am trying REALLY hard not to boost today...
IT's SO FUN!!!
59960, RE: VERY UPDATES ON MY TURBO (FIRST TIME BOOSTING) !!
Posted by Corbin, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I'm starting to think that your S-FMU or fuel pressure gauge is busted. The difference between screwing the static screw all the way in and all the way out should be huge. You should be able to go from 20 psi up to 60 or so. I think you'll have a hard time getting any warranty help from Vortech. I think you'll have to go through Bill.

Corbin

'95 ESI-T
HRC+FMIC+ETC...



Gimme fuel...Gimme fire...Gimme that which I desire
59961, RE: VERY UPDATES ON MY TURBO (FIRST TIME BOOSTING) !!
Posted by gilee_8, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
OK....thta's what I think now too.
SFMU or Fuel Guage.

Should I get a fuel gauge first...to see if just my gauge is FUCKED?
THanks guys.

you guys know where I can get one? like local stores?
GIl
59964, RE: VERY UPDATES ON MY TURBO (FIRST TIME BOOSTING) !!
Posted by jsupetran, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
fp of course since its the cheapest. you can probably peice one together with your old fittings and a new gauge. i've never tried to make one so who knows but there probably a write up on the net.

but that sucks with vortech though; i can't believe they don't have a warranty or honor it.

-------jezreel
hrc stage 1, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, costum dp, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler


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59983, RE: VERY UPDATES ON MY TURBO (FIRST TIME BOOSTING) !!
Posted by Eclipse2NR, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I am sure Vortech has very good warranties, when you buy their products from an authorized vortech dealer. I doubt motofool is though.
Oh, btw... do you have the little metal caps that go on each end of the SFMU spring? If you didn't, turning the screw would just thread it into the spring, not actually push down on it. I think turning the screw in raises the fuel pressure, so it shouldn't matter anyway. Just curious...

1996 Eclipse RS / 5-Speed / Aerogear Body / Coated in Magnetic Red Metallic rev.2 / T3 Turbo Intercooled @ 8 psi / More at http://home.insightbb.com/~mgalyan/
Mark Galyan - Indianapolis, Indiana

59984, RE: VERY UPDATES ON MY TURBO (FIRST TIME BOOSTING) !!
Posted by redeclipset, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
You should just go to an import store and buy a new sfmu. Take the new one out and swap it with the old one. And take the old one back. No worries with warranty problems or anything. Do the same with the gauge. It'll work everytime.:thumbsup
59991, RE: VERY UPDATES ON MY TURBO (FIRST TIME BOOSTING) !!
Posted by gilee_8, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
How can I do it?
I do'nt think there are any import store around Albany NY area.
And I called Bill...he didn't pick up the phone.
I will call him again.
Gil
59992, RE: VERY UPDATES ON MY TURBO (FIRST TIME BOOSTING) !!
Posted by etx, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by gilee_8
How can I do it? I do'nt think there are any import store around Albany NY area. And I called Bill...he didn't pick up the phone. I will call him again. Gil


^ good luck with that.

If someone took apart the lower part of the sfmu its most likely busted and will need to be sent to vortech for repair.
60062, VORTECH SFMU
Posted by Millennium, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Hey...I am selling a BRAND NEW SFMU..you interested?
60063, Hey..some updates for you guys...
Posted by gilee_8, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Thanks Mill.
I am getting an exchange from BILL... ( I HOPE IT WILL WORK OUT )
So don't worry...alot of people on this board want to buy that SFMU...
RIGHT GUYS??

anyway...here rae the updates.
Just changed the fuel pressure guage....and the same.
So I am 100% sure it's the STUPID SFMU.
So sad....
More to come when I got that fix!
Gil
60116, RE: Hey..some updates for you guys...
Posted by Uberingram, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I find it odd that you 2 post together.

Gil has suspected bad sfmu
Mil offers Gil new sfmu
Mil posts about new sfmu in FS section
Mil accidentally refers to himself has Gil here and edits. Someone caught it

What gives?

Mil = Gil imo
60145, RE: Hey..some updates for you guys...
Posted by XtremeRS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
yeah, what gives? matching IP's of both users..we dont need any scams on here :wary
60146, RE: Hey..some updates for you guys...
Posted by Eclipse2NR, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
That is pretty fuckin shady..

1996 Eclipse RS / 5-Speed / Aerogear Body / Coated in Magnetic Red Metallic rev.2 / T3 Turbo Intercooled @ 8 psi / More at http://home.insightbb.com/~mgalyan/
Mark Galyan - Indianapolis, Indiana

60159, RE: Hey..some updates for you guys...
Posted by Uberingram, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
check out the For Sale section...its Sold all of a sudden/...

Edit: NM, XtremeRS already locked it :) Someone got sp4nk3d...
60162, RE: Hey..some updates for you guys...
Posted by gilee_8, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
YO...you guys are FUCKED up now.... that really annoying me.
Look at my past 1 years of post, questions, honality, replies, points...etc...

LOOK at it...SHIT... you guys ... don't even back me up
and even question that I scam people.

I AM A COLLEGE STUDENT...and I AM and always...and currently using Campus computer..... and YES...I know Millenium, he is kinda like my friend, coz he drives Eclipse also in school, and I got to konw him in one of the auto-cross racing shit...
And that doesn't mean SHIT ok.

So if you guys say all that shit...then so will be it...I guess all the good stuff I did before is just ALL SHIT.

:thumbsdown :nono
Gil
60172, RE: Hey..some updates for you guys...
Posted by XtremeRS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by gilee_8
I AM A COLLEGE STUDENT...and I AM and always...and currently using Campus computer..... and YES...I know Millenium, he is kinda like my friend, coz he drives Eclipse also in school, and I got to konw him in one of the auto-cross racing shit...


Well if he is a friend that you know, why would he come on here asking you to sell it? Come on now, both user names have the same exact IP addresses, which means both users are using the same computer. Take it for what you will...
60177, RE: Hey..some updates for you guys...
Posted by gilee_8, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
well, am I using the same IP as the IP I used yesterday or before??
Check it.

as I said, I know him in a way of just we both drive ECLIPSE...not friend ok.
so you have to make that clear.
And by the way, I am the one who show him 2gnt.com.
Anyway, think whatever you want.
Gil

P.S.
all I konw is, now I have been screwed by FUEL PUMP ASSHOLE, oil line kit shit, exhaust manifold, and now the SMFU....I been screwed 4 times in 6 months...BIG TIME...and I am buying myself a brand new one, and have a F'ed one sitting in my car, so I can at least start my car and drive to school and work.
Whatever you guys say ok...
I just want to go here and ask for help and help others...but I know the fact is, people here always scores others and viceverse.

Gil
60188, RE: Hey..some updates for you guys...
Posted by DR1665, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Calm down man!

IMO, you are too much of a hurry when you work on your cars. I remember what happened during that rebuild last summer. Now you have this frantic post about a turbo install? You DO know you'll end up rebuilding thisd one too don't you?

Calm down man.
60205, RE: Hey..some updates for you guys...
Posted by turbo8u, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
yea good luck in pulling a fast one :nono
_________
96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca
60206, RE: Hey..some updates for you guys...
Posted by Collente, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by gilee_8
well, am I using the same IP as the IP I used yesterday or before?? Check it. as I said, I know him in a way of just we both drive ECLIPSE...not friend ok. so you have to make that clear. And by the way, I am the one who show him 2gnt.com. Anyway, think whatever you want. Gil P.S. all I konw is, now I have been screwed by FUEL PUMP ASSHOLE, oil line kit shit, exhaust manifold, and now the SMFU....I been screwed 4 times in 6 months...BIG TIME...and I am buying myself a brand new one, and have a F'ed one sitting in my car, so I can at least start my car and drive to school and work. Whatever you guys say ok... I just want to go here and ask for help and help others...but I know the fact is, people here always scores others and viceverse. Gil


Dude... Calm yourself down and do things right. Might want to go back to highschool also. Regardless, you need to calm down and make sure you do things right. Glueing lines really well to a sfmu is a good way of doing it WRONG. Shit like that doesnt stay, just wait untill you can do it right and then do it right. You will feel so much more comfert when you do it that way, trust me I know.




Nick
97RS

turbo8u> shut your SUCK
ZAO684: NIPPLE warning...maybe>?
60208, RE: Hey..some updates for you guys...
Posted by jsupetran, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
OK...I think i have to make this nice an clear.
It's BRAND NEW..not used.
So if you compare a used to a brand new, of course you can get it cheaper.. DUH!
Second, it comes with all fuel hose, and adaptors... so NO NEED to get anything.
^^^^^^^^^^:wary


-------jezreel
hrc stage 1, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, costum dp, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler

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