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59707, boosting problems
Posted by siueclipse, Oct-29-03 03:20 AM
Well... last night I drove to st louis, (smoked an rsx-s, hehe).. anyway.. on the way home i noticed i wasn't making boost. I am making maybe 2 or 3 pounds of boost and thats it.

This morning I check my turbo, its fine, normal play for a 20g, no scrapes.. looks fine.. i check a few of the boots for the IC piping, they looking fine. Checked the bov to see if it was leaking.. It doesn't sound or feel like its leaking, but when you rev it.. the amount of air that comes out is no where near what it used to be. I have 2 more IC boots to check, but i have to take the bumper off for that.

My question is.. If all the boots are fine, could it be a problem with the turbo? The 20g is internally wastegated. Can a turbo just stop making boost?

Any other suggestions?

Thanx
James
59708, RE: boosting problems
Posted by grain, Oct-29-03 03:30 AM
maybe the intercooler leaking? never had a problem like this. either mine boosts, or it dosent.
59709, RE: boosting problems
Posted by siueclipse, Oct-29-03 03:38 AM
Originally posted by grain
maybe the intercooler leaking? never had a problem like this. either mine boosts, or it dosent.


i suppose the ic could be leaking, but its not like i hit anything with it. haha

james
59710, RE: boosting problems
Posted by grain, Oct-29-03 03:44 AM
maybe the boost controller isnt working? maybe try sticking the line from the compressor housing to the wastegate, and i guess thats a 9# spring? i dunno.
59711, RE: boosting problems
Posted by siueclipse, Oct-29-03 03:53 AM
if the boost controller wasn't working, then the wastegate would at least do 5lbs of boost. the wastegate is set for 5lbs.. actually it goes to 7

james
59715, RE: boosting problems
Posted by Mattchew, Oct-29-03 03:57 AM
Originally posted by siueclipse
if the boost controller wasn't working, then the wastegate would at least do 5lbs of boost. the wastegate is set for 5lbs.. actually it goes to 7 james


Is your wastegate flapper stuck open? I have heard of people having thiers sick open before.
59718, RE: boosting problems
Posted by siueclipse, Oct-29-03 04:01 AM
Originally posted by Mattchew
Originally posted by siueclipse if the boost controller wasn't working, then the wastegate would at least do 5lbs of boost. the wastegate is set for 5lbs.. actually it goes to 7 james
Is your wastegate flapper stuck open? I have heard of people having thiers sick open before.


ill check that out

james
59719, RE: boosting problems
Posted by Ryan_Hes, Oct-29-03 04:16 AM
Originally posted by siueclipse
if the boost controller wasn't working, then the wastegate would at least do 5lbs of boost. the wastegate is set for 5lbs.. actually it goes to 7 james


If this is the case, you could hit only 2 or 3 psi because there is a pressure loss through the IC, even if your wastegate is set for 5...but if I had to guess you problem just have a coupling blown.

59721, RE: boosting problems
Posted by siueclipse, Oct-29-03 04:23 AM
Originally posted by Ryan_Hes
Originally posted by siueclipse if the boost controller wasn't working, then the wastegate would at least do 5lbs of boost. the wastegate is set for 5lbs.. actually it goes to 7 james
If this is the case, you could hit only 2 or 3 psi because there is a pressure loss through the IC, even if your wastegate is set for 5...but if I had to guess you problem just have a coupling blown.


it probably is (hoping) just a coupler, we'll see.. ill have to take it all off tonight.. GRRRRRRRRR
59725, RE: boosting problems
Posted by siueclipse, Oct-29-03 05:41 AM
well.. i checked the boost controller by taking it out of the loop. still no boost. actually less than before.

i check all the IC piping and boots. No problems. I took off the turbo outlet IC pip and massive amounts of air is coming out. I dont think the turbo has a problem.

Im starting to lean to the BOV. It doesn't leak when reving but maybe under load its leaking. Im unsure. Ive had a funny feeling with the BOV over the last month. Maybe its shot.

james
59713, RE: boosting problems
Posted by jsupetran, Oct-29-03 03:56 AM
is the turbo getting oil?

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59716, RE: boosting problems
Posted by siueclipse, Oct-29-03 04:00 AM
Originally posted by jsupetran
is the turbo getting oil?



yes the turbo has plenty of oil. i even checked the shaft this morning and its fine.

james
59714, RE: boosting problems
Posted by Mattchew, Oct-29-03 03:56 AM
You would be surpised what can put a hole in an intercooler. Even a rock thrown from another car can do it. Happend to a buddy of mine. The big thing is check those boots under the bumper, but usually if you have blown off a boot completely the car wont idle well either.
59717, RE: boosting problems
Posted by siueclipse, Oct-29-03 04:01 AM
Originally posted by Mattchew
You would be surpised what can put a hole in an intercooler. Even a rock thrown from another car can do it. Happend to a buddy of mine. The big thing is check those boots under the bumper, but usually if you have blown off a boot completely the car wont idle well either.


ill check the IC tonight, ive had boots come off before, the car idles just fine. maybe with a 4g63 it wont idle correctly but with a 420a, it will idle fine.
59720, RE: boosting problems
Posted by Mattchew, Oct-29-03 04:20 AM
Originally posted by siueclipse
Originally posted by Mattchew You would be surpised what can put a hole in an intercooler. Even a rock thrown from another car can do it. Happend to a buddy of mine. The big thing is check those boots under the bumper, but usually if you have blown off a boot completely the car wont idle well either.
ill check the IC tonight, ive had boots come off before, the car idles just fine. maybe with a 4g63 it wont idle correctly but with a 420a, it will idle fine.


You have a point. I have both and I've only had the pipes come off on my GSX.
59726, RE: boosting problems
Posted by grain, Oct-29-03 05:49 AM
james, what kind of bov do you have? if its adjustable, try setting it at the tightest it will go. i have the turbo xs rfl-h and i have it tighted down all the way, to make sure it dosent leak.
59729, RE: boosting problems
Posted by Kirby, Oct-29-03 06:30 AM
Get a pcv pipe and cap drill a hole in the cap and insert a tire valve. Put it on the turbo inlet and put about 16-20 LBS of pressure in the system, then lister for the leak.
59733, RE: boosting problems
Posted by siueclipse, Oct-29-03 08:15 AM
yeah. i just did the leak test. there are none.

im running a greddy type s bov.

im starting to get frustrated.
59734, RE: boosting problems
Posted by Eclipse2NR, Oct-29-03 08:22 AM
Did you check the wastegate actuator arm (if internally gated)? Mine lost it's little E-clip and the arm fell off the lever, and made like 2 psi of boost.

1996 Eclipse RS / 5-Speed / Aerogear Body / Coated in Magnetic Red Metallic rev.2 / T3 Turbo Intercooled @ 8 psi / More at http://home.insightbb.com/~mgalyan/
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59744, RE: boosting problems
Posted by whodatt1, Oct-29-03 09:34 AM
if you can't hear any boost leaks I would lean toward the westgate being stuck open.
59750, RE: boosting problems
Posted by siueclipse, Oct-29-03 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Eclipse2NR
Did you check the wastegate actuator arm (if internally gated)? Mine lost it's little E-clip and the arm fell off the lever, and made like 2 psi of boost.


ding ding ding.. we have a winner.. i can't believe all the trouble i went through just to find out it was that stupid pin that came off the actuator arm.

james
59758, RE: boosting problems
Posted by turbo8u, Oct-29-03 11:14 AM
Originally posted by siueclipse
Originally posted by Eclipse2NR Did you check the wastegate actuator arm (if internally gated)? Mine lost it's little E-clip and the arm fell off the lever, and made like 2 psi of boost.
ding ding ding.. we have a winner.. i can't believe all the trouble i went through just to find out it was that stupid pin that came off the actuator arm. james


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59759, RE: boosting problems
Posted by Eclipse2NR, Oct-29-03 11:16 AM
Glad to be of help. That happened to me after like the 3rd day of having the turbo kit. I bought some more clips, put the arm back on. The clips didn't fit, and now I can't even get the arm back off... hehe.


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59763, RE: boosting problems
Posted by siueclipse, Oct-29-03 11:31 AM
i used a cotter pin
59766, RE: boosting problems
Posted by XtremeRS, Oct-29-03 01:08 PM
Hehe, yeah same shit happend to me before too..I was like WTF? Then saw the wastgate arm just chillin there :) Stupid pin.. also used a cotter pin to fix it.
59776, RE: boosting problems
Posted by pn0ymahal, Oct-29-03 04:08 PM
yah, happen to me the pin came out a long time ago and i was all piss.
cool deal
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