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58829, BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by tim97rs, Oct-17-03 01:58 PM
Dead motor, credit card, wifes approval!!! trying to stay around 3000-3500 clams. Cant/dont wnat to do FTY, only because of shipping costs. What parts would you do to get the HP & Psi above? Include head, block, turbo and tranny!
Ill send a half case of beer and a twinkie to who has the best set-up info!:thumbsup
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58846, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by dougie2, Oct-17-03 05:37 PM
Engine: JE 8.8:1 pistons and rings (.020 over) Crower connecting rods ARP head studs Mopar upper & lower gasket sets Clevite 77 main and rod bearings Melling oil pump
Head: Crane springs and retainers PT rockers and lifters 55mm TB
Turbo: s20G turbo setup Stainless steel lines (oil, fuel, vac, boost) fuel system of choice Bar & plate intercooler core 24x8x3 Silicone/fiberglass couplers Beaded IC pipes
Tranny: Quaife LSD Axles clutch of choice
Lots of TUNING!!!
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58848, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by bustrblue2, Oct-17-03 06:10 PM
^^ thats going to be more than 3-3500 bucks
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58849, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by MajinVejitaXV, Oct-17-03 06:17 PM
Damn, all that for $3000-3500? If it was that easy, I think we'd all have 300hp cars by now...sorry man, try and be more realistic. And don't be cheap, it just means you'll be right back where you are now before long.
-Corey
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58850, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by tim97rs, Oct-17-03 06:19 PM
OOPS!!! sorry, meant $4000-4500. was thinkin about 3's for other reasons...
that a better figure?:shrug
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58853, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by Eclipse2NR, Oct-17-03 07:01 PM
How much are shipping costs through FTY anyway?
1996 Eclipse RS / 5-Speed / Aerogear Body / Coated in Magnetic Red Metallic rev.2 / T3 Turbo Intercooled @ 8 psi / More at http://home.insightbb.com/~mgalyan/ Mark Galyan - Indianapolis, Indiana
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58854, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by bustrblue2, Oct-17-03 07:09 PM
better, but what all do you have right now so in case you would be able to keep anything it would save on money.
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58856, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by tim97rs, Oct-17-03 08:06 PM
stock motor 'cept for UPD, AEM cam gears, PT lash adj. and followers, 60mm TB, MSD DIS-2, t-too small turbo kit (need to upgrade)
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58861, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by bustrblue2, Oct-18-03 05:52 AM
would you be doing the work yourself, like the bottom end, or having someone else do it (assembling i mean)
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58862, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by Mr Mike, Oct-18-03 07:05 AM
Didn't you have cams also?
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58863, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by tim97rs, Oct-18-03 07:09 AM
id have someone do the same work that FTY does to thier blocks, i have never pulled an engine before and would want to have it done right.
I do have cams, but they are regrinds, and im gonna go for the crane 14's
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58865, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by FlyinEsi, Oct-18-03 07:27 AM
Tim, talk to Motofool, he will set you up fat for $4500. He should put me around 400HP for $5000.
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58867, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by bustrblue2, Oct-18-03 08:27 AM
are you in a hurry to get it done? if not, you could try and wait until HRC gets their stage 3 complete and ready for sale. then you'd be running pretty good :), but you could probably buy the s16g, (not sure if you have an intercooler or not) their big intercooler, fuel system look at something with maybe 440's ? the stage 4 clutch and get the head ported and polished....do you have the exhaust done? that should either get you there or close to it for around what you was wanting spent. then you could slowly add to it. just a thought:shrug
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58869, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by Eagle 5, Oct-18-03 09:27 AM
engine rebuild kit ~ $1100 - (includes Pistons, rings, rods, bearings, oil pump, rear & main seal) machine work ~ $500 or around there depending
Big 16G turbo - $450ish (I really dont know price, just a guess) 400cc injectors or 40lb injecors, around there - sfmu unless you already have - 255lph fuel pump unless you have one.
since you have a turbo kit though you probably have soem stuff you already need.
no headwork is needed unless head needs to be milled or decked. head is fine the way it is (look at HRC, stock head other than springs, retainers)
however much for installation, not sure on cost. parts and machien work is around 2000-2500. then installation. thats all you really need for 300 hp. mainly just build the bottom end to handle more power. head is fine how it is unless you want to do some headwork. big 16g is enough to get you to the 300hp mark. bigger fuel injectors unless you already have them. not sure if 30# injectos is enough or not.
you can do it for that price, a lot of it would be the installation though.
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58872, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by bustrblue2, Oct-18-03 10:22 AM
true, he doesn't have to do the heads, i was just saying that he could do them so that so much boost wasn't needed. just depends on which route he wants to go i guess.
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58874, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by Eagle 5, Oct-18-03 10:34 AM
Originally posted by bustrblue2 true, he doesn't have to do the heads, i was just saying that he could do them so that so much boost wasn't needed. just depends on which route he wants to go i guess.
ah ic. I would say though that since he is aiming for 16-18 psi or so and 300 hp that he could just do the bottom end and not worry about the head. He can do work on the head but that would cost more money. It would be easier to run more boost and spend less money. HOWEVER, if he does have money to get some things done to the head then go for it. Most will say at least get springs and retainers, but its not necessary.
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58875, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by Eagle 5, Oct-18-03 10:37 AM
Also, if you dont have a front mount intercooler, id say get one from HRC, and then get some mandrel bent pipes from summit racing or jc whitney and make your own ic piping. or you could have a shop do that too and it should not cost to much to have done. forgot about the IC but if oyu already have a front mount, no need to worry then. it would be better if we had a complete list of what you already have done so we could be more specific on what else you would need.
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58878, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by bustrblue2, Oct-18-03 12:18 PM
yeah.
also, if your aiming for 300hp at the crank or wheels go for the wheels!!!!}(
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58879, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by ghostESiKY, Oct-18-03 12:29 PM
so you could have a built block and not have to worry about the head? as in you could take a built block and slap your stock head on it and everything would work all gravy?
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58880, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by Eagle 5, Oct-18-03 12:32 PM
Originally posted by ghostESiKY so you could have a built block and not have to worry about the head? as in you could take a built block and slap your stock head on it and everything would work all gravy?
YESSSS!!!!
the only thing you would need to check out on the had is if its warped or not. you might have to get it decked or something but just take oyur head off and clap it on the next one. HRC has a completely stock head except for springs and retainers. everything else is stock on it. the head will hand 500hp as HRC's does. its the bottom end that is the weak link
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58885, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by tim97rs, Oct-18-03 03:12 PM
300 to the wheels, mang!! nunu dat crank sheeit!!!
I will do cams, springs, retainers, S/S valves to the head. No port work, yet. No flow bench around my area. i have talked with Motofool, and will be doing some more talking with him quite soon. Just waiting to see if this other turbo deal is gonna fly first.
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58983, RE: BUILD MY MOTOR FOR 15-18PSI, 300hp Posted by hawaiidiverx, Oct-19-03 08:24 PM
Eagle H-beam Rods $310 JE 8.8:1 pistons $435 hot tank, hone block 100 clevite bearings $200 crane #14 cams $345 crower springs and titanium retainers $210 ferrea super-flo stainless valves $375 AEM cam gears 150 total $2125
AEBS in Cali does sick port work about a grand
new total 3125
assembly should run around 500.... new grand total $3625
...engine will be good up to 600HP...good luck
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