muahahaha!

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Member # 333

Show us how...muahahaha! :D


http://www.cardomain.com/id/jasvbts2k2
"The ONLY Honda I'd mod would be ASIMO"

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stock computer, no DFI!

do you do all the racing at rt 66? im from sw subs of chicago, but im in florida now. but i will be in orland park in the next few weeks. maybe ill take a trip out to see you guys at the store maybe.:thumbsup

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Originally posted by grain
do you do all the racing at rt 66? im from sw subs of chicago, but im in florida now. but i will be in orland park in the next few weeks. maybe ill take a trip out to see you guys at the store maybe.:thumbsup

Not all racing is done at Rt. 66. This pass was made at Byron Dragway.

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2 words....HOLY SHIT

Well slap my face and call me Suzy.

A 420A in the 10's. I have to say that's pretty impressive that you dropped from the 11 flat or 11.1 to a 10.8 already.

all i can say is wow... thats awesome... any runs without the 150 shot?

just curious..... that is truly amazing though, stock ecu, tranny... etc

congrats
:thumbsup
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:cheers

hehe, stock trans w/Neon 3.55 gears & Quaife diff, still tickin after dozens of passes in the 10's and 11's (take THAT, DSM GS-T and Civic guys!) :D

badass!

COngrats Bill!

was just a matter of time ;)


still stock head too??

Bill I have tried looking on your site for the new fuel system info but I can't find it. When will we be able to find out how your fueling this beast without a DFI?

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Originally posted by HRC
stock computer, no DFI!

WHAAAT? How?! OMG

stock head, stock cams, stock valves (Crane springs and retainers), stock intake manifold...LMAO!:7

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Originally posted by HRC
muahahaha!

this has to be teh greatest post ever....
congrats too

double post........stupid computer

ha, thats awesome, stock head, stock trans, stock ecu

awesome, very very impressive :thumbsup

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great job:bowdown :thumbsup :7 Your car is awesome:love

Bill how much boost pressure you running and was that with or without nitrus?

Yes, 150 shot NX in full bloom in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th...the nitrous drives the boost level to about 23 PSI...without the juice it sees about 16 PSI (Stage IV max boost, good enough for low 12's / hi 11's)...

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I KNEW IT!!

Craig tried to message me last night, and i just KNEW that it was going to be about a 10 second pass. Damnit, if only i had gotten home earlier...

Congratulations, Bill! I knew you could do it, but i had NO IDEA it would be on a stock head, cams, intake manifold, and NO DFI! WOW!

WHAT THE HECK AM I DOING WRONG??? ahahaha

3 letters... W T F! that's awesome! :bowdown good job....

Nice job Bill, that's freakin awesome. :cheers

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And we all bow down to the master! :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown

Thats just badasssss :thumbsup

O mercy, O mercy, warm, sticky, gooie in the pants!!

is this "No DFI, stock computer, head, yadda, yadda" going to be a trade secret or are we lower life forms (:-) ) gonna get to have the technology? SPILL IT BILL!!!!!!!!

My enigine is coming out, tell me more about the Neon 3.55 gears: 95-97 neons RT's?
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Originally posted by tim97rs
3.55 gears: 95-97 neons RT's?

No, 95-99 SOHC w/ your clutch housing and shift selectors.

Congrats! When is the HRC Stage 8 coming out so we can be as cool as you!? :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown

hehe, stock body, stock suspension 'cept AGX shox, no radical weight reduction, daily driveable...who needs a 4G63? I'd rather walk the competition than my crank...

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Originally posted by HRC
hehe, stock body, stock suspension 'cept AGX shox, no radical weight reduction, daily driveable...who needs a 4G63? I'd rather walk the competition than my crank...

whoa!! owned.. :bowdown

VERY impressive.. congrats!

Sweet! :thumbsup

Rank 1/4 ET 1/4 MPH 1/8 ET 1/8 MPH 60' Car Turbo N2O Name Shop
1 9.545 151.64 6.299 120.46 1.632 94 Eclipse GST Greddy T78 YES Garry Marsh Wrightouch Racing
2 10.037 140.49 6.541 107.99 1.481 91 Eclipse GST FP Secret NO Aniel Pagan AP Racing
3 10.073 147.34 6.721 115.26 1.766 92 Talon TSi T4 Secret YES Gavin Winn
4 10.204 143.38 6.767 113.31 1.772 91 Laser AUTO TRE T4 Secret YES Kevin Kwitkowski TRE, Precision Industries
5 10.723 139.68 6.747 108.63 1.494 90 Laser RST T3/T4 60-1stg3 YES Don Polk Polk Performance
6 10.727 142.12 7.136 109.43 1.731 90 Talon TSi 60 trim YES Rob McKeller Extreme Motorsports
7 10.765 135.82 7.120 111.91 1.806 90 Talon TSi Frank 5 NO Dan Kraft Extreme Motorsports
8 10.906 124.80 7.023 99.96 1.554 95 Talon Tsi T78 YES Kerry Runnoe Static Racing
9 11.023 135.61 1.750 95 Talon TSi T-78 YES Brian Pagel Magnus Motorsports
(Courtesy: http://www.dsmtimes.org/fwd.htm)

Oh, yeah, I do believe that puts you at Numero Uno as far as FWD Second Generation DSM's...YET AGAIN!! :cheers

The argument only grows stronger! ;-)

wow. damn. :thumbsup :bowdown




14.5 @ 95mph / 7psi 185hp/180tq

Congratulations! NOW TELL US HOW!!!!!:D

Bill, you are now my hero. even faster than every 2g 4g63, LOL. :cheers do you have any vids? and what's this 'no DFI' thing, that's not even funny!

Hey Jason that list needs some serious updating. I saw a GSX go 9.9 @147 with no nitrous a couple weeks ago at the local track in Orlando. And Shepard is missing from that list also. He runs 8's.


BILL.....You have to let us know what fuel system you gusy are using. My guess is 8 injectors.

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Originally posted by Dave_FL
Hey Jason that list needs some serious updating. I saw a GSX go 9.9 @147 with no nitrous a couple weeks ago at the local track in Orlando. And Shepard is missing from that list also. He runs 8's. BILL.....

thats the FWD list, lol, shepard drives a awd car, and he is on the awd list ;)

(btw, the gsx saw was probably Jesus's car...hes got a couple fast rides)

Oh OK that clears that up.....

And yes it was Jesus's car. I just didnt feel like naming names. I know his driver really well. Old school Orlando DSMers

10.87 ... that's it?! I know you can get the 'ol RS into the low 10s Bill!!!!! Go Bill!!!!!!

:thumbsup .....and I bet she still has more in her! }(

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Originally posted by JasonESi_T
Sweet! :thumbsup

Oh, yeah, I do believe that puts you at Numero Uno as far as FWD Second Generation DSM's...YET AGAIN!! :cheers The argument only grows stronger! ;-)

Yep, quickest FWD 2G ever...and if we can get another tenth out of her, we'll have the 3rd quickest 2G DSM overall, INCLUDING AWD cars! Gotta love that 420A...

HRC, so when are the updated kits going to be available, and some info on them? with having the head completely done, and most of everything else, do you think it's possible to get where your at or maybe a little more without nos?}(

and when you going to get us some video?:shrug
but congrats on the time, very impressive, way to show everyone who's boss!:bowdown

3rd quickest? someone needs to lose 10 pounds! become anorexic before you race. is that on street tires?

Stock Head, Intake Manifold, Cams, ECU, and no DFI can get you in the 10's?:bowdown

Kinda makes me feel like we're wasting our money on some of that stuff. You guys my friend, are tuning gods.:bowdown

can't wait to see what kind of numbers you come out with next!

You guys can ALL do this. We now have the 'recipe'!

No, it was not on street tires...nothing exists to hook up this kind of FWD power. We use slicks for best performance with minimal driveline stress.

Originally posted by HRC
You guys can ALL do this. We now have the 'recipe'!...

Bill, it would be AWESOME if you brought some of that 'recipe' to next year's shootout. i want to see the look on Bushur's face!

SICK...... Bill is the 420A GOD.:bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown :bowdown

DETAILS!!!!!!! WE WANT DETAILS!!!

ALRIGHT BILL!!!!!!!! We are all Donkeys chasing the carrot, spill it for Christs' sake (and ours!!).

WHATS THE RECIPE?????????

Great job! Congrats on getting the RS into the 10s! :thumbsup :7

The fastest 2G FWD is a 420a car, heh heh I'm sure that doesn't sit well with the 4g63 squad. And ONE MORE TENTH and you'll have the 3rd fastest 2G, PERIOD! You know what you have to do before the end of the racing season then ;)

And, defenitely take it to the shootout next year! You'll clean house.

Originally posted by VX100
The fastest 2G FWD is a 420a car, heh heh I'm sure that doesn't sit well with the 4g63 squad. And ONE MORE TENTH and you'll have the 3rd fastest 2G, PERIOD!

wow....i had no idea. very impressive :thumbsup

Excellent work. Can't wait to see what all this hype is about. :)

1996 Eclipse RS / 5-Speed / Body Components by Aerogear / Coated in Magnetic Red Metallic v2 - More at http://home.insightbb.com/~mgalyan/
Mark Galyan - Greenwood, Indiana

ye gads, just one more tenth. I shoulda made a second pass last Sunday! But my reasoning was to save it for this weekend...there's an Import Wars up at Great Lakes, and we'd like to go there and wow the crowd.

BTW, by no means was the 10.87 a perfect pass...engine almost bogged off the line, as I will apparently need to turn up the two-step RPM to accomodate the additional 'grab' of the new clutch linings. I saved the pass by spraying early (mid of first gear) and got the usual 'BANG' out of the exhaust from the rev limiter in first (happens almost every time I spray it early, the RPM rise rate is amazing when I hit the juice in first)! Add to that, my shifting was a bit slow and tentative due to the car having been hard to shift as of late...but I was delighted to learn that the new clutch ALSO fixed this - the car hasn't shifted this good since it was stock!

So, with a better leave and faster shifting, the 10.70's may be in reach. Anything is possible at this point, as the car is starting to work amazingly well after a summer of improvements and tuning. The 7.14 @ 109 1/8 mile should go into the 7.0's with a good leave!

So, I'm SO ready for this weekend.

For dessert: The car has made so many passes, showing so little stress, at the 150 HP nitrous level that I am confident it is time to try the 200 shot (I can go 250!!!!)

:7


The last time we tried the 200 shot, the car was a freakin rocket, but drove through the clutch in 3rd gear...finally overcoming the Stage IV clutch at over 600 HP...amazing it held as long as it did! This is why we put in the twin-disc clutch...to prepare for 200 HP or more nitrous.

I'll make one pass with the 150 shot; if it's good, in go the big jets. No guts, no glory...

News at 10.xx,
Bill

Go Bill!

Go for it. post the results.

Originally posted by bustrblue2
HRC, so when are the updated kits going to be available, and some info on them? with having the head completely done, and most of everything else, do you think it's possible to get where your at or maybe a little more without nos?}( and when you going to get us some video?:shrug but congrats on the time, very impressive, way to show everyone who's boss!:bowdown

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NICE work!!!

I'd like to thank all of you for your support and kudos. We'd never have ventured to build a 10 second 2GNT car if it wasn't for you folks! No, it's true...

Without your demand, we'd never have designed the turbokit in the first place.
Without your enthusiasm, 'The 2GNT Movement' would not have grown.
Without your determined support of 'The Mission' and your defense of us and others of 'The Movement', we'd have been trampled by all the 4G63 racists.
Without your willingness to share information, no one of us (Including me!) would be as far as we are.
And without 'The Movement', there would be no reason for us to be here.

A thousand thanks to every one of ya,
Bill

do u still drive the car daily? or pretty much daily?

Originally posted by HRC
I'd like to thank all of you for your support and kudos. We'd never have ventured to build a 10 second 2GNT car if it wasn't for you folks! No, it's true... Without your demand, we'd never have designed the turbokit in the first place. Without your enthusiasm, 'The 2GNT Movement' would not have grown. Without your determined support of 'The Mission' and your defense of us and others of 'The Movement', we'd have been trampled by all the 4G63 racists. Without your willingness to share information, no one of us (Including me!) would be as far as we are. And without 'The Movement', there would be no reason for us to be here. A thousand thanks to every one of ya, Bill

I, for one, am very glad i could be a part of The Movement. ;-)

I will be part of the movement maybe some time soon... :)

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Bill I need info on the fuel system my man, I already have the LSD, axles, the engine upgrades, a crane ignition and a big ass turbo. I think the only things I'm missing are slicks, NOS and your fuel system. Please serve up some info my friend. I'm starting to wonder if I could get there with what I have, plus the NOS and slicks. Now the only problem is I will need 20 years of practice to drive it as fast as you. Thanks for taking a spearhead on "the movement" friend, without you there would only be a motion, not a movement.

wow history in the making. dats probably the fastest 2GNT in the world.

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Bill...what kinda damn bribery do you want to get the fuel setup out of you???? :-) jesus, thats almost 2 whole seconds faster than my best time, at just 6 more psi. i really, REALLY wanna know the setup. i promise i wont tell!

1999 Black C5
1997 Silver RS
Wiseco 8.8:1 Pistons(back to low compression!)
Eagle Rods
T3/T4 Turbo
Custom FMIC
Greddy Exhaust
390's
Most current 1/8th mile time: 8.3@90mph 2.015 60'(Nitto Drag radials, i suck)

Guess I just missed you today. Swung by the shop since I was in town but Kris said you were out and about. Had a pretty good chat with her for a bit, and of course she was remaining very tight lipped about the fuel system no matter how hard I tried. Found it funny though with all the ladies in the front and while I was there one of the guys(who shall remain nameless unless you wanna dime him out Bill) got some flowers delivered to him...LMAO The few cars I saw sitting around looked good, wish it wasn;t so close to SEMA and I coulda got a wlk through of "mission control" Oh well , maybe next time..... Congrats on the numbers, keep up the good work :thumbsup

Originally posted by HRC
I'd rather walk the competition than my crank...

Best quote ever! Congrats Bill:bowdown

Awesome! Just freaking Awesome!
:cheers


95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed
15.901 @ 88.34mph
Jeep TB writeup - http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html

:bowdown We are not worthy...

Congrats on this major accomplishment. Now what is this new fuel system you are running with stock parts, and No DFI?

Could I possibly petition you to dyno the RS so we can see the horsepower numbers?

Everything you want to know except real info about the stage3/4 fuel systems.

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=56512&mesg_id=56512&page=7

thats freakin sick bill...... 23 psi and a 250shot nitrous, thatd be good for a low 10 high 9 :) water inject that bugger
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

Uberingram> I bow down to the Geo

My guess is 8 injector setup. There is no other way.

Well unless I was getting some smoke and mirrors tossed at me yesterday, Kris told me that it was not an 8 injector setup even though there has been some dabbling with them in the past. Guess we all need to sit tight until the first week of November to await the unveiling after SEMA.......

Originally posted by Dave_FL
My guess is 8 injector setup. There is no other way.

no. there must be another way. i refuse to molest my intake manifold, i'm sure there are a lot of people on here that agree with me. the chrysler engineers know more about injector placement than i do. there must be a good way to run 4 large injectors (larger than 440's) without a DFI. my guess is the engineers at HRC designed a pulsewidth translator that takes the original pulsewidth coming from the ECU and narrows it by a certian scalar depending on boost pressure. just a guess though. i don't know much about fuel injection design but at this point that's all i can think of.

I know one thing .....When this thing coems out and is available I will be one of the first to buy it. I am in desparate need of a new fuel system. I am running 440's with the cartech and I am running 15psi. My fuel system is crappy. I cant tune it for shit. I just run hella rich. I dont dare touch the safc because when I ran into MANY problems wiht it in the past whne I was trying to lean it out to much with it. I guess I wil patiently wait until November.

i highly doubt they are using the 8 injector setup

probly somethin like 800cc's is my guess
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

Uberingram> I bow down to the Geo

Why are they waiting till Nov. to "unveil" it? thats just WRONG! :-) when it comes out, i will get it, no question.

1999 Black C5
1997 Silver RS
Wiseco 8.8:1 Pistons(back to low compression!)
Eagle Rods
T3/T4 Turbo
Custom FMIC
Greddy Exhaust
390's
Most current 1/8th mile time: 8.3@90mph 2.015 60'(Nitto Drag radials, i suck)

>>no. there must be another way. i refuse to molest my intake
>>manifold, i'm sure there are a lot of people on here that agree
>>with me.

LOL... Ditto!

I hope the fuel system won't cost that much

I bet I can release it right now, Propane... Raise the octane level. with the propane and nitrous I bet that bitch would be a beast!}(

Originally posted by ner947

Originally posted by Dave_FL My guess is 8 injector setup. There is no other way.

no. there must be another way. i refuse to molest my intake manifold, i'm sure there are a lot of people on here that agree with me. the chrysler engineers know more about injector placement than i do. there must be a good way to run 4 large injectors (larger than 440's) without a DFI. my guess is the engineers at HRC designed a pulsewidth translator that takes the original pulsewidth coming from the ECU and narrows it by a certian scalar depending on boost pressure. just a guess though. i don't know much about fuel injection design but at this point that's all i can think of.

Pulsewidth modification.. good idea.. although i'm tending to lean toward an active electro-mechanical FPR

-- WheatKing

Pulsewidth modification.. good idea.. although i'm tending to lean toward an active electro-mechanical FPR -- WheatKing


"pulse signal interceptor" i got my money on it.

that would be nice if the new fuel system came with its own fuel computer or even a electronic EFI mod or something. that way when the engine looked into the ECU's memory to tell how long the injector pulse duration should be it would be set, that way ensuring the perfect a/f ratios. this new computer or chip would use the stock efi system and its sensors (map, tps, etc...) it would also ideally come with injectors and a guideline for what boost you wanted to run.



but yea, we have been waiting since july!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHH, lol get it to us already sheesh
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

Uberingram> I bow down to the Geo

wanna trade? please pretty please? but seriously fuggin awesome.

Chris:thumbsup

Outstanding Bill!!!! Congrats!

Wish I could have seen th epass down the 1/4.



15.9 @ 86.7mph
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Originally posted by Michael_97RS
Outstanding Bill!!!! Congrats! Wish I could have seen th epass down the 1/4.

haha, you mean...the marroon BLUR!



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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

Uberingram> I bow down to the Geo

I fucking LIVE in the town of byron, mere seconds from the track, and I wasn't there. And to add insult to injury, I am just now hearing about the pass.

WTF?!

(p.s. congratulations. Almost makes me wish I had a HRC kit instead of my Star kit.)

got a movie of the run hehe so we can parade it around for all to see ^_^

Yeah Brad, PLEASE Take some video of your runs this weekend!

I like my 8 injector setup, I couldn't ask for anything more. I hope I don't have to remove the 8 injector setup to install the HRC system because I am buying it as SOON as its released!

Keep up the good work!! :thumbsup :bowdown

haha.....made you look
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

Fook! You got me!x( LOL>:puke

yea i pulled that one off back in JULY

HAR HAR HAR, lol....HINT HRC! HINT!!!!!!!!! HHIIIIIINNNNNNNTTTTTTTTTTT
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96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

wow... not funny.

If this new system is going to involve be dumping my $300 S-FMU then I doubt I'll be considering it any time soon...

oh my lordy lord!!!:bowdown

Unfortunately, we did not get a video of the pass.

Hey, btw: I have been submitting the new times as they have occurred to the dsmtimes.org page. They have been unresponsive as far as posting the times:thumbsdown

Anyone else have this problem over there?

I don't think they've updated it in quite a long time. I've heard others complain of the same problem.

How'd you do this weekend at Import Wars?

any update on the kits, prices or the stage 5?}(

Dont hold your breath for them to update it. Several years ago when I had the quickest 1/4 for all motor, Shaun Frank and I sent my slip/info in multiple times and it never got updated, ever. Hell, my name still isnt on the list.

Congrats on the pass Bill, sweet times :thumbsup