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53060, wet or dry kit?!?!
Posted by Eklypz420, Jul-31-03 08:29 AM
I'm looking to buy a nitrous kit. I have a 95 eclipse GS with a T3T4 turbo. I know with a 95 you can have either wet or dry kit, but with a turbo would a wet kit be better? I only want a 50-75 shot, and I was told by another member I could use a dry kit up to 75 shot. Any suggestions are appreciated
Jimi
53070, RE: wet or dry kit?!?!
Posted by 1FastEclipse, Jul-31-03 10:29 AM
Wet kit in my opinion is always better for a few reasons. First, it is alot safer because it adds more fuel to your system to prevent running lean. Second it is fairly easy to tune your A/F because you can swap fuel jets till you get it just right. Being that you have a 95, the wet kit is gonna be a little harder to install since you don't already have the tap on your fuel rail. Shouldn't be anything too difficult though. Are you running on built internals? Why don't you just up the boost? Using it for spool up?
53071, RE: wet or dry kit?!?!
Posted by juggalo, Jul-31-03 11:04 AM
go with the wet kit
53073, RE: wet or dry kit?!?!
Posted by Uberingram, Jul-31-03 11:22 AM
I hope you have another motor ready.
53091, RE: wet or dry kit?!?!
Posted by dougie2, Jul-31-03 06:26 PM
Don't tell me your one to believe that nitrous blows up engines... are you? Even in combo with a turbo, the nitrous won't blow up the engine if it's tuned properly. You better have forged internals though.
53095, RE: wet or dry kit?!?!
Posted by DocWhiplash, Jul-31-03 07:19 PM
>Wet kit in my opinion is always better for a few reasons.
>First, it is alot safer because it adds more fuel to your
>system to prevent running lean. Second it is fairly easy to
>tune your A/F because you can swap fuel jets till you get it
>just right.

The dry kits adds more fuel to the mix also, it just does it with the injectors by boosting the fuel pressure. You can also adjust the fuel and nitrous jets the same for tuning. There just as safe as the wet kits for smaller shots like up to a 75 or 80 shot. I would probably go with a wet kit with a turbo any way or if you want to go with a higher shot than that. I dont know why people have this misunderstanding about dry kits, and nitrous altogether. Not to be a dick by any means but check the factual info first.

Lata
53107, RE: wet or dry kit?!?!
Posted by 510eclipse, Jul-31-03 09:41 PM
>>Wet kit in my opinion is always better for a few reasons.
>>First, it is alot safer because it adds more fuel to your
>>system to prevent running lean. Second it is fairly easy to
>>tune your A/F because you can swap fuel jets till you get it
>>just right.
>
>The dry kits adds more fuel to the mix also, it just does it
>with the injectors by boosting the fuel pressure. You can
>also adjust the fuel and nitrous jets the same for tuning.
>There just as safe as the wet kits for smaller shots like up
>to a 75 or 80 shot. I would probably go with a wet kit with a
>turbo any way or if you want to go with a higher shot than
>that. I dont know why people have this misunderstanding about
>dry kits, and nitrous altogether. Not to be a dick by any
>means but check the factual info first.
>
>Lata
>



not to be a dick but get off your high horse. just because you memorized the "factual info" advertised from various manufacture's doesnt mean you know what your talking about. keep up on that factual info reading and add some experience to the mix for some good factual knowledge...

to the guy who asked, yes, go with a wet/direct port nitrous system.
in some instances, the dry kits can not be quite as safe and definately not as efficient. its not even the issue of "safe" meaning fear of blowing the hell out of your engine. you see with some setups you can have a very small fraction of a second between when the nitrous starts spraying, and the fuel is increased. this will surely not cause your engine to blow on initial sprays, as long as your fuel curve is tuned appropriately. although everytime you spray and there is that tiny gap of time for a late fuel spray, your engine will be wearing out that much faster. that is something you may find more often in a dry setup. a "wet" nitrous system has its own independent fuel supply, it doesnt just bump up the pressure or pulse rate of your stock fuel system. you have the line comming right off the fuel rail to the intake manifold to join where the nitrous solenoid also has a hose going to the mani. another thing to consider in the "late fuel" issue is line length in a wet kit. the nitrous is under an extremly higher amount of pressure than your fuel system. i have alot shorter line going from the fuel solenoid to the intake mani than i do from the nitrous solenoid to the intake mani.

alright im tired, peace good luck with your nitrous.
53138, RE: wet or dry kit?!?!
Posted by DocWhiplash, Aug-01-03 10:16 AM
>Wouldn't that only be the computer controlled kits like ZEX and >Venom? I don't see how a other kit can pulse the injectors with out >some sort of computer module.

Actually zex doesnt have acomputer module, it uses jets inline from the fpr to the intake mani that will adjust the fuel pressure. the venom is computer controlled

>not to be a dick but get off your high horse. just because you >memorized the "factual info" advertised from various manufacture's >doesnt mean you know what your talking about. keep up on that >factual info reading and add some experience to the mix for some >good factual knowledge...

Well let me get off my high horse :rolleyes and explain what you probably didnt get what I was saying. For one, I've had a very good amount of nitrous experience in the last 7 years on bikes and cars. I have seen and heard many people that state thngs that arent true such as "nitrous blows your engine up" and "dry kits dont add fuel" here is no reason for you to get on a soap box and try to start shit. I am very comfortable with my knowledge of how nitrous works on the many sytems I have installed and worked with. I've run a higher shot on a busa than I do on my car. I stated that i didnt mean to be a dick because it was probably going to come out wrong. I can give you alot of factual info but i seems like you just wanna sound cool on the internet.

>keep up on that factual info reading and add some experience to the >mix for some good factual knowledge...

I'm down to match any of my factual knowledge with you anytime partner.

Anyway like i said earlier. If you where jsut going to run a 75 or 80 shot on your car, like I've been doin on the eclipse for over a year on stock internals, you would be fine with a dry kit on a 95. With the strain already on your fuel system with a turbo setup you would want to go with a wet kit to supply the extra fuel
53156, RE: wet or dry kit?!?!
Posted by 510eclipse, Aug-01-03 03:22 PM
haha well what can i say, its not like i go into it like that not expecting a response. alright you won, but only because you've owned a busa with nitrous and i havent. thats some good shit, the second to last time i was out at sacramento raceway, there was some guy running nitrous on a busa pulling 8 something in the quarter. maybe im off a little, it was a while ago. got any clips of yours in action?
53114, RE: wet or dry kit?!?!
Posted by 1FastEclipse, Aug-01-03 05:32 AM
"The dry kits adds more fuel to the mix also, it just does it with the injectors by boosting the fuel pressure"

Wouldn't that only be the computer controlled kits like ZEX and Venom? I don't see how a other kit can pulse the injectors with out some sort of computer module.
53152, RE: wet or dry kit?!?!
Posted by Cereal5, Aug-01-03 03:07 PM
>"The dry kits adds more fuel to the mix also, it just does it
>with the injectors by boosting the fuel pressure"
>
>Wouldn't that only be the computer controlled kits like ZEX
>and Venom? I don't see how a other kit can pulse the
>injectors with out some sort of computer module.

With a dry kit, your computer sees the nitrous and attempts to compensate by adding more fuel. I tend to prefer a wet shot, especially with stock injectors, as it has it's own fuel supply, instead of relying on your cars already strained injectors to compensate. If you are relatively stock, either a wet or dry will be fine, but I definately feel safer with the wet shot. At least that way I'm guarenteed to have the fuel that I need, when I need it.