1 - chris, joe, MWC, or anyone else turbo'd in atlanta, i need some help here. after all this thinking ive realized i have no where in macon that can build my bottom end for me when the time comes, so i was wondering can you guys tell me which shops do your motor work and how much they charged you for labor (please state what labor they performed). On the boring for the JE pistons, include the price you had to pay for the machine work even if the machine shop charged you seperately from the shop that did the install. i need to know exactly what im looking at here and i know you guys can get me involved with a good shop i can drive to atlanta for to do this for me.
2 - i am also interested in what everyone else paid for labor building their internals, not just GA people, i just wanna know what shops i should consider here.

3 - also, what did you guys pay for upgrading your fuel systems? while reading the archives i came across a comment (from nemezis i believe) that said that he was gonna build his fuel system first because it cost about the same as building the bottom end. this is what throws me off (BADLY) because i imagine about $2500 for the bottom end right? (1150 for the hardware, and the rest on labor and machine work)? when thinking about the fuel system, all i can come up with is about $1300 ($350 for 440s, $300 for the SAFC, $400 labor, and that includes another $250 for me to add hahn's accel pump to the star kit, unless i go with the new edge kit which obviously already uses the accel pump)

4 - what other costs am i not seeing that would put a seemingly $1400 fuel system up towards the $2500 price range? was this just a misguided statement i read? i cant afford a $2000 turbo kit and then blow another $5000 on fixing whats already there (at least not for a while)

5 - one last question...on the new edge kit, it uses the accel fuel pump, i cant remember which FMU i read that it included. but either way, does this mean that the new edge kit is using the same fuel system setup as the hahn kit? if so, that makes the NER kit a star turbo with a hahn fuel system (exactly what ive been wanting)

thanks for the help!



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>5 - one last question...on the
>new edge kit, it uses
>the accel fuel pump, i
>cant remember which FMU i
>read that it included. but
>either way, does this mean
>that the new edge kit
>is using the same fuel
>system setup as the hahn
>kit? if so, that makes
>the NER kit a star
>turbo with a hahn fuel
>system (exactly what ive been
>wanting)

Nope the regulator is the other difference. The hahn uses an adjustable regulator (fuel pressure and rising rate ratio) while the stars FMU is fixed at 12:1. Also the Hahn kit adds a return line on 96up models from the rail to the tank while 96up Star kits mount the FMU at the fuel tank where the factory regulator is.



Stan2gnt
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Speak with Jim Clark. Everyone in Atl is using him now for their bottom end and then dropping the motor back in themselves. MWC posted his number once or you can check on se.dsm.org. If you are looking for a hsop that can do everything with a dyno, check on tuned performance in Marietta. Honestly, I forget what everything cost me because I did so much at one time. As for the fuel system, that seems a bit high to me too. The most I can imagine is using an Accell, 1:1 regulator, and 625's which is around $1500. If you start including larger lines, bigger fuel pump, etc, it istill would not go past $2000. $1300 seems more reasonable to me too. You need both really.

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thanks for the heads up, im still getting a little more worried because of this new problem i am having with my car...its no big deal really, except i hit the gas and the car accelerates at 3000-5000 as if i was floored at 1500 (see general forum) so once i determine this problem (hopefully not the head gasket or bottom end problem) i will take on my turbo savings, which i have been putting off now for 3 months

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About general cost of bottom end work:
Here in KS I've used a machine shop that has quoted $60 boring (1st pass) and extra 30 for final with pistons for my block(which he still has b/c I'm poor). He'll mount pistons 25 a piece. Its normally 15 for chevy and ford. If you need a crank turned its 100 . DONT LET ANYBODY BS YOU ON THAT!!!!
I had a guy come back and tell me it was going to be 210 for O'Reilly's to turn his neon crank b/c it's forged. BULL! I called them back and it majically went back to 100. If you have to have line bore thats 100 too. Doubtful though. Also decking and milling I had done for chevy was about 50 pr side but that can get pricey too. You can put a bottom end together if you can install a turbo kit! Actually it's easier--- just have to be patient and measure alot of $hit!! Hope these prices helped