I know only a couple 2GNTs use the e-manage and I'm looking for some info.

Is it possible to use this unit for high performance applications (20-30 psi) with all available options (support tool, all sensors and harnesses)?

Can it idle/adjust injectors over 600cc... 700cc?

Is it reliable for datalogging and controlling ignition timing?

I don't like the 8 injector setup or SAFC/Pocketlogger setup. The e-manage sounds nice but is it all it's crack up to be? Will it work for Stage 4 and 5 setups? Any info would be appreciated.

doug hit me up on aim i got something for ya does everything the emanage does but costs alot less im going to be trying one out a second hand would be useful to compare numbers

the unit costs about 300$

Bill

http://www.perfectpower.com/products/smt6.asp

>Is it reliable for datalogging and controlling ignition
>timing?

One thing I've seen over and over about this e-manage that's disappointed me is that the timing function hasn't been proven to work. Apparently, even in the latest Turbo Magazine, they used the E-Manage to turbocharge a new 350z, and brought over a programmer from Japan who's reknowned for his expertise with this unit, and although he was able to tune the fuel with it well, he still couldn't get the timing function to work. :rolleyes

did get the chance to read that article but that sucks....

ive heard of better results with the smt6
doug wanna give it a shot?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jamesman is still using his MSD to do timing instead of the Emanage. The "increase injector pulsewidth" feature seems to be notsogreat either.

Road Race is trying to get us to try the AEM EMS... they've got a 3G turbo on the EMS that's really REALLY fast, and they think it'll do wonders for the 2GNT.

"he still couldn't get the timing function to work"

Was he aware that there was a misprint on the emanage documentation in regards to the wiring for the Emanage ignition harness?

I havent tried after folks on the yahoo emanage group found the misprint, but i also did not have any luck.

The pulsewidth injector control works great in my opinion...havent had a problem with it.

Also, the emanage cannot work with injectors over 50% of the stock injectors because - remember - it still leans out your injectors through the map sensor - just like the SAFC.
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Vinnie Lima
vinnie.lima@jvllogistics.com
AIM: Kiku888
1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
14.7@97 mph@6psi
Proud member of the
ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew

>"he still couldn't get the timing function to work"
>
>Was he aware that there was a misprint on the emanage
>documentation in regards to the wiring for the Emanage
>ignition harness?

The article prefaced his qualifications as he being some sort of E-manage pro or expert from Japan.

I would think he could not only read the instructions, he might not even need them. And even if he did, he could read them in their original japanese form.

ahhhh i wouldnt put too much faith into people though ;)

Even the ORIGINAL japanese instructions were even wrong ;)

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Vinnie Lima
vinnie.lima@jvllogistics.com
AIM: Kiku888
1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
14.7@97 mph@6psi
Proud member of the
ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew

>ive heard of better results with the smt6
>doug wanna give it a shot?

Hmmm... it looks very interesting. What are the computer requirements and on what OS does the software run? It seems very similar to the emanage and I'm going to need to run BIG injectors. Think it'll work?

Anyone have other ideas for me? What's Armond running? What about the high power Neon guys? I'm definetely open to suggestions and trying new products.

the smt6 needs a laptop witha windows 95/98 and or DOS which ever way u choose to go about it,

what i like is the fact that the little 300$ unit controls ignition, can clamp the map voltage, and increase fuel upon boost for 300$ WHY not?

the e manage in my mind is slightly better but lookat your price differences,

the top neon guys are runnign the autotronic stand alones, the SDS, Fast engine management, DTA from TTI, and a couple more runnign around over there

none use the e manage for their cars that ive seen...


looks like about 20people are gonna be using the smt6 with this group buy for devolpers going on,

Bill

I think I'm in bro... where's the group buy?

Bill, correct me if im wrong, but i beleive the group buy is for established business to get the SMT6 product out and known, yes?
what is the asking price, or better yet, the price we will see as the buyer from you?

Im working it out with the guy that is providing the group buy on neons.org board here is the links for more information,

If he doesn't want to provide the group buy ill get setup asa dealer and we can do it that way,

Either way i want to get this product working,

Bill
http://www.neons.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=97368&highlight=smt6
http://www.neons.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=96663&highlight=smt6

http://www.neons.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=98556&highlight=smt6
http://www.neons.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=96424&highlight=smt6

ill call perfect power on monday and get soemt higsn straightened out,
http://www.perfectpower.com/products/smt6.asp

looking at a group buy of 5 people to set this up anyone interested?

whats group buy price?

this link shows it to be 290$
plus shipping
http://www.neons.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=97368&highlight=smt6

im working on gettign a seperate group buy going over here..

Bill

Alright boyz heres the deal,

Group Buy For SMT6 Devolpers

If you want in on this group buy you need to be prepared for these things,

1) beable to help with setting up a written wiring diagram for the install, to make things simpler for the non electrical gurus. This would also include helping in a written manual for install.

2) beable to provide numbers and fixes help with problems that we encounter, and atleast try to promote new ideas and superior ways of install or tuning with the particular unit.

3) have a decent enough knowledge about the 420a engine and the way the ECU runs it to trouble shoot and tune the SMT6,

users will be working with neon owners and some selected stratus owners to perfect the units abilities....


the Set price will be 290$ for a copy of the wiring diagram, the Unit com cable and harness,

This Group Buy is intended to further both my knowledge and the participants knowledge, and to promote a new product for our industry with everyone coming out ahead witha better piggy back system.


The participants intended dont have to be dsm gurus but this also is not the best unit for somone who is not familar with turbo systems and especially the 420a system of management...

Bill

I would like to see 2-3 people besides me at the very least jump on this for the price at this point in time..

Update 2 people ready to go

1) myself
2)the1Bill
3)?

you need a lap top for this at all times? I'm still waiting for an update on that black box someone was talking about. Otherwise it may be the FICU or emanage or something similiar. Problem is not getting enough info.

you need a laptop to set it up and make changes u dont need a laptop to have the car run only to change the units fuel maps and play with settings..

1) myself
2)the1Bill
3)Colente
4)
5)?

1)Myself
2)the1Bill
3)Colente
4)DSMRoadster
5)?