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44747, Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by HRC, Mar-14-03 07:53 AM
All is well this way..just got the biggest snow of the season tho! Old man winter had to get in his last licks, I suppose. Good news is, it will be 65 this weekend, so woo hoo...out come the toys! ============================================================================= 2003 is upon us! We plan to run both the Neon and the RS this year, along with a bevy of other new beauties (see our SEMA Feature Cars on the Website for details). +++++++++++++++++++
I took the HRC RS home for the winter, and it has been progressing nicely. My son Adam and I have been puttering with it in the garage. He will be 15 in June, so his interest in cars has now ramped up sharply! I resisted the urge to put a 'clone' of our Drag Neon driveline in it...I reasoned that the car will be more significant to other 2GNTers if it remains a 2.0 with a five speed, not a 2.4-automatic. Even tho I am sure we can go much quicker with the 2.4/auto, it's more than a bit of work (as I am sure you know) to get that stuff in there, and I really want to finish development of a ten-second combo with 2.0/5-speed. After that, who knows...the proverbial 'wild hair' could always intercede...heh! +++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nonetheless, the car will be Super 25G and ACCEL Gen VII equipped with that 2.0 tho...fun, fun, fun! As you know, I ain't skeered to break it...if we could do 600 HP with the Super 20G and N20, I can see 750 or so with the bigger turbo and maybe a tad more juice. 600 HP should get it into the hi tens, so 750 should be good for mid to low tens. Prob need that 2.4 / auto to go into the nines tho...oh man, there I go! Stop me before I mod again! ++++++++++++++++++++++++
Neon fun will continue...we have a new partner in TCI to beef up the driveline department, which is a good thing! I sat on my hands with power increases last year, as more power would simply have stressed the somewhat fragile automatic trans into failure even more often. But now, I will be able to upgrade the turbo, as even a Super 25G is small at this level of competition. We will also finally port the cylinder head, as we feel low nines at almost 160 MPH is abouut the most we will get out of a stock head and valves! George Bryce, of multitime champion ProStock motorcycle fame with Star Racing, will be doing our cylinder head development. All told, we expect to step well into the eight second range with these improvements! :)
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44750, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by DarkOne, Mar-14-03 08:48 AM
Hey Bill. Good to see ya again ;-)
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44751, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by JasonESi_T, Mar-14-03 08:59 AM
Can't wait to see it Bill!
Do you expect to go to the Shootout this year?
I hope you will!! :7
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44754, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by Jasvb TS2K2, Mar-14-03 09:28 AM
>Nonetheless, the car will be Super 25G and ACCEL Gen VII equipped with that 2.0 tho...fun, fun, fun! As you know, I ain't skeered to break it...if we could do 600 HP with the Super 20G and N20, I can see 750 or so with the bigger turbo and maybe a tad more juice. 600 HP should get it into the hi tens, so 750 should be good for mid to low tens.Prob need that 2.4 / auto to go into the nines tho...oh man, there I go! Stop me before I mod again! ++++++++++++++++++++++++ >:o
From all the guys that have never told you personally and that have gotten into turbo 420A's cause of your work, THANKS! :thumbsup Keep up the great research.
 http://www.cardomain.com/id/jasvbts2k2 "The ONLY Honda I'd mod would be ASIMO"
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44757, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by PowerEclipses, Mar-14-03 11:09 AM
Ah man this is awesome, I really like to see some 420a's really kicking some ass. Hey Bill, there has been alot of interest, maybe it can be something you can look into. But would there ever be a possibility of an AWD system for the 420a? Maybe a kit? Being a FWD car, its hard to get some good traction.
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44758, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by Joshua97478, Mar-14-03 11:32 AM
Hey Bill... I don't suppose you would want to give me a free stage 5 tubo kit for my 95 eclipse? Preety Please?
Current Mods: Flowmaster Muffler Ghettofied PVC intake w/K&N Filter Platinum +4 Plugs MSD Super Conductor Wires 1 Heavy Right Foot!!!!!
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44766, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by fly1, Mar-14-03 03:08 PM
Great to hear that you are continuing to experiment/tune the RS. Please keep us updated with your project, and please come out with some more GO-FAST parts for us 420A's:D
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44767, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by DarkOne, Mar-14-03 03:20 PM
You know, Bill.. now that i've thought about it, you could probably get away with running a stroked 2.0L in the RS.. Like the 2.2L from Howell :-) Might satisfy that need fore more displacement, and it is after all, still a 2.0L block.
Just a thought.. ;-)
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44778, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by KidEvo, Mar-14-03 05:37 PM
I ..was going ..to say that.:(
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44770, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by Super20G, Mar-14-03 04:11 PM
Wow, must feel so damn good to do what you love for a living.... Not a whole lotta people get that kind of satisfaction. Man, I have about had it with this gen 6 DFI, its never been properly tuned, I'd love to get my hands on one of those gen 7's, to bad i cant upgrade this dang box :wary
You've done great work for us, Bill and the rest of your team. Kepp up the great R&D
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44771, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by HadesOmega, Mar-14-03 04:25 PM
yeh the stroker kit sounds good for you but I think 2.0 is still a good size, it not too big not too small, has a good torque/HP curve. But wow 600 HP and you want more! I must say even though i don't have a HRC kit you've done a great job feeding hungry 2GNT people their horsepower, gives the 2GNT a little more edge than it used to.
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44772, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by ez, Mar-14-03 04:51 PM
Hey Bill, want to have an extra son around? :D I've already graduated HS and college so you wouldn't have to tell me to get good grades or anything. just let me take the ride out for a spin every now and then.
can't wait to see what's coming this year with HRC! keep us updated often yo!
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44774, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by icedout, Mar-14-03 05:00 PM
hey bill you should look at going to the east coast DSM shoot out at englishtown april 26..... boy would it shut up some of these guys at NYDSM and NJDSM to see a RS smoke there doors off... i would pay too see that..... i am in both families 420a and 4g63 but always get slack for the 420a..... why i can't understand cause i like my rs as much as the gsx..... bring that RS-T 11 sec car over here and shit on most of these guys.... }( :thumbsup :7
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44800, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by Fast420A, Mar-15-03 06:10 AM
Hey Bill, does the newer DFI box allow complete control over the rev limit and fuel cuts so you can get to the sweet spot with that turbo? And I agree on the AWD for the 2gnt. The Auto tranny we use is available in AWD for the minivans. You'd think it could be a "major" type of bolt on.
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44804, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by Jeff_99gs, Mar-15-03 08:46 AM
There is a standard 5 speed 2 liter 4G63 running 9.5 at 151mph FWD. We all know the RS can take it :thumbsup. I would love to see that happen.
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44830, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by Avenger, Mar-15-03 07:30 PM
Hey Bill,
Glad to see the RS back up and running. Hopefully it will be in the trailer when you guys come down to Texas this year. :) 9 sec 420a eclipse. That'd be so cool!
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44832, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by Ryan_Hes, Mar-15-03 08:02 PM
Keep it up :-)
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44834, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by RyaN95i4, Mar-15-03 08:29 PM
Great to hear Bill! Thanks for the update, best of luck this season :thumbsup
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44860, RE: Greetings from Hahn RaceCraft! Posted by Fast420A, Mar-16-03 09:51 AM
Come to Brandenton and smoke all the local DSMer's that always talk shit about the 420A "Widebody Neon"
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