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Topic subjectFUEL CUT???
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40700, FUEL CUT???
Posted by ECLiPSE56, Sep-24-02 03:38 PM
how come when i'm squeezing in 3rd gear the rpm juss stops at 5200? is it fuel cut? maybe i'm runnin too rich on 3rd gear??
40701, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by DownAzzDSM, Sep-25-02 03:49 AM
Never heard of the RPM's just stopping. Give some more description. Does the car bogg? Does it just die? Does it sound like your hitting the rev limiter? What kit are you using?
40702, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by ECLiPSE56, Sep-26-02 08:12 PM
aite.. i tried it again.. it don't stop at 5200.. it juss starts to slow down and the intake makes a different noise.. it that normal?
40703, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by DownAzzDSM, Sep-27-02 08:16 AM
Just out of curiousity. How did you mount your bottle? That's not normal. Mine kicks in full power through all gears until I let off. Or if I lean out my system shuts off.
40704, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by ECLiPSE56, Sep-28-02 08:34 AM
hmmm.. i don't think mine is normal.. it's mounted right behind my driver's seat.. actually it ain't even mounted .. and it's sitting sideways.. i'm running a nos wet kit 80shot and it tends to slow down after like 5grand.. what could be the problem?
40705, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by DocWhiplash, Sep-28-02 09:31 AM
Man you have to mount your bottle to something. The bottle has to be mounted facing the proper way as well so the pickup tube will get the nitrous in the bottle. That might be the problem right there.
40706, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by ECLiPSE56, Sep-30-02 03:45 PM
NOPE.. that wasn't the problem.. any other ideas?

40707, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by tampadsm, Dec-07-02 04:42 PM
did this problem ever get resolved for you? im currently having the same problem on similar setup.. vcn1000 99rs. im basically running 420a stock except for vcn/headers/aem cai

i cant find a good answer.. the guys at venom suggested upgrading injectors and getting an safc. i have the safc now im gonna try to tune the stock injectors, im not sure what to expect though.. anyone in the same situation, any ideas? suggestions? please reply asap..

thanks


40708, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by Fast420A, Dec-07-02 05:05 PM
Wow, a new guy from Tampa. I guess we'll have to have another meet!

As far as the problem goes, do you have any gauges to tell you the A/F and also the EGT's? If so, whats your readings, if not, GET SOME. Does it only do it on the Nitrous. If so then you may be running lean and then the ECU is pulling your timing A LOT due to the knock or it could be that you are running WAY too rich and bogging the car down.



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40709, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by tampadsm, Dec-08-02 02:06 PM
meet? it be sweet if i could get together with other tampa dsm's..

currently i have just an autometer nitrous press gauge.. i had a/f but the first one got stolen with my pillar pod and other 2 gauges.. then i got another a/f but i sold it coz it was kinda usless.. just a dumb light that doesnt really tell me any usless info. i heard u have to get one configured for your car, is that correct?
any suggestions? as far as gauge? egt and a/f
i just got a new afc 3 days ago i tried installing it today and i could not get that damn thing to work.. after i tapped into all the wires i turned the car on and the afc would not power on. the car would idle to about 1500rpm and then it would die..
after 4 hours i said f*k it and threw it back in the box..
if you know anyone that has been succesful at this here in tpa that could help out it would be grr8...


40710, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by Fast420A, Dec-08-02 04:21 PM
http://www.2gnt.com/nuke/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=25


There's the info on the SAFC install for our car. That should help you out a little bit.

As far as the A/F goes. You need a A/F gauge that reads the O2 voltage in volts, not blinking lights. You CAN get the blinky light gaguges modified to only read at wide open throttle since that is when it really matters but I personally like the digital voltage reading.

Corbin on the board used to sell some that he had made but now he has the right up available here.

http://www.2gnt.com/www/corbin/dvm2.html

Also you should have an EGT gauge so you know if you are starting to run too hot of Exhaust temps. If you get up to 1600 F you may run in to some problems. The MOST I ever saw all motor was 1475 F and I was always running rich as hell.

I honestly would hold off on tuning the car with the AFC until you have gauges and figure out the problem. I would hate to see another blown 420A in tampa, (been there done that)


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40711, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by tampadsm, Dec-08-02 04:54 PM
sounds good about the gauges..ill look into it.

as far as those manuals go, i used wyatts and i failed twice..
i cant imagine it being defective, the afc was brand new in the box purchased from a performance shop. i guess there is a possibility but anyways..
i havent fried it because it doesnt smell and doesnt look different.

whats up with the broken link on one of the manuals? maybe someone has access to it?

safc install cannot be this difficult.
car turns on but afc doesnt do jack.. not even turn on..
car idles to 1500rpm then it bogs out..
when it does stay on, you can only feather the throttle up to 6500rpm.. if you do WOT car shuts off automatically..

ever heard of this? if so please help..

thanks.

40712, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by RoboTechDSM, Dec-09-02 03:08 PM
Don't mean to hi jack this thread, but wow, another Tampa 2GNT'er!!!

Hey Kyle, remember D-Day

40713, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by tampadsm, Dec-10-02 11:06 AM
i finally got it isntalled.. now its not lettting do WOT.. it bogs out immediately and goes back down to 1000rpm.. it acts like its gonna shut off but it just idles really bad..

any ideas? could i of tapped the wrong wires? have i not set it up right? i did the 4cyl pointing up right, 7in 7out..

i also tried 6in 6out..

no difference at alll..

40714, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by tampadsm, Dec-10-02 11:10 AM
really? is there alot of tampadsm's here?
were are they?
any meets?
maybe one has an safc and can help me out eh?

40715, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by DarkOne, Dec-10-02 01:19 PM
Is it set to Pressure? (Not Karman, not Hot-Wire)

You might want to take the 4 screws out of the back of the AFC, pop the case open, and make sure the plug is seated correctly on the inside of the unit. That's the biggest problem i've found when it comes to these things not turning on after install - the installer (you) managed to wiggle the plug loose inside the unit. it's not secured very well at all, it happens to me almost any time have to do any serious work in my dash.
40716, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by tampadsm, Dec-10-02 03:18 PM
im such a jackass..
i didnt wanna point out my stupidity but if incase someone runs into the same symptoms you might wanna check it out.
i got the wires mixed up.. i hooked the mass sensor in/out backwards.. the yellow and white were backwards.. i changed them and then prayed as i turned the car back on.. did WOT and presto!
i appreciate everyones input and advice. outstanding support!:thumbsup
40717, RE: FUEL CUT???
Posted by Fast420A, Dec-19-02 11:21 AM
Glad to hear you got it worked out. Got any gauges yet? ;-)






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