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36112, Rebuild your turbo!
Posted by Corbin, Dec-18-02 11:07 AM
I accidentially toasted my 16G a few months back. I'm cheap, so I rebuilt the turbo myself with a HRC long rebuild kit. For those interested, here is the page that outlines the procedure:

http://www.2gnt.com/www/corbin/rebuild16g.html

Corbin

'95 ESI-T
HRC+FMIC+ETC...



Gimme fuel...Gimme fire...Gimme that which I desire


36113, RE: Rebuild your turbo!
Posted by fly1, Dec-18-02 12:05 PM
Excellent instructions! I hope I don't ever have to do this, but this will definitely come in handy. This will save anyone at least $200 on a rebuild.
36114, RE: Rebuild your turbo!
Posted by XtremeRS, Dec-18-02 12:29 PM
EXCELLENT write up Corbin! Great work there. This will save me mucho money as i need to rebuild my turbo also..got some shaft play.. thanks a million for the time and effort to put that up on for us!!
36115, RE: Rebuild your turbo!
Posted by lazerus, Dec-18-02 02:02 PM
You may also want to add in there that you should clean the shaft with Emry cloth, or FINE FINE Steel wool in order to make it completely smooth.

And having all the housings and the core glass-beaded by a local machine shop is a good idea, to remove all dirt, so that you do not contaminate the bearings and score them or the shaft.

Also, make sure you mark where the turbine is in relation to the compressor, and install it back on the SAME exact orintation or the turbos bearings will wear out quite quickly, because of an imbalanced rotational assembly.
36116, RE: Rebuild your turbo!
Posted by 420AYE, Dec-18-02 02:37 PM
corbin man, you are a huge contribution to this site. what would we do without you? props man.
36117, RE: Rebuild your turbo!
Posted by HiOnPSI, Dec-18-02 03:58 PM
Awesome.

If i ever screw up the 16G, it's 20G time :)



Jon

1997 Eclipse RS

14.21@101mph 10/4/02

MODS: 8.8:1 JE Pistons / Eagle rods / Stage 1 Hahn turbocharger / Melling Oil Pump / Autometer 5" tach / 4 JL 12" W0 subwoofers / Clarion 230w amp / short shifter mod / GReddy EVO exhaust / custom 2 1/2" downpipe / no cat con / CM Stage 1 / 30lb Mustang injectors / TurboXS MBC / 1G SMIC / Eibach Sportline springs / KYB GR-2 struts / GReddy 52mm EGT / A'PEXi Super AFC
36118, RE: Rebuild your turbo!
Posted by MetalJim, Dec-18-02 04:08 PM
Thats a real nice writeup Corbin. Good info - Good job. :thumbsup


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60068, RE: Rebuild your turbo! back from the dead.
Posted by WIKKI, Nov-03-03 05:19 PM
question.
I don't see this kit listed in hahns prices. does anyone know about how much this long rebuild kit goes for (corbin).

any help would be appreciated.
60076, RE: Rebuild your turbo! back from the dead.
Posted by MetalJim, Nov-03-03 08:15 PM
Holy ancient post...at least its a good one. :thumbsup

I got a rebuild for my 14b from Turbo City http://www.turbocity.com/TurboRepairKit.htm for $120 shipped. Not sure what HRC wants for thiers.


95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed
15.901 @ 88.34mph
Jeep TB writeup - http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html
60099, RE: Rebuild your turbo! back from the dead.
Posted by 420AYE, Nov-04-03 05:10 AM
wtf? who is post resurecting? wikki? damnit! that is my job! x(
60112, RE: Rebuild your turbo! back from the dead.
Posted by Corbin, Nov-04-03 06:12 AM
I think the kit from Hahn was about $150. You have to call them to get pricing. There was some damage to my turbo and it failed again after a few months. I then had my turbo machined, rebuilt, and balanced for about $360 (I think it was Majestic Turbo). That was 10 months ago.

Corbin

'95 ESI-T
HRC+FMIC+ETC...



Gimme fuel...Gimme fire...Gimme that which I desire
60147, RE: Rebuild your turbo! back from the dead.
Posted by WIKKI, Nov-04-03 12:59 PM
Thanks guys!
I was hoping for a less expensive way to get mine to quit blowing oil. mine is new and has zero shaft play so I think that a rebuild would take.

Corbin, if I go this route, would you be up to letting me pick your brain while I'm in the process of the repair? I pulled it apart earlier to see if there was anything obviously wrong with the turbo, and I don't remember seeing a single rubber o-ring in there.

Jim, you haven't installed your turbo yet have you? is there any way you would know if your rebuild was successful?
60152, RE: Rebuild your turbo! back from the dead.
Posted by Eclipse2NR, Nov-04-03 01:49 PM
Are you sure you are not just backing up your oil return line? Mine was and started spitting oil out both sides of the shaft, visible in the intake piping off the compressor, and caused a lot of smoke out the exhaust.


1996 Eclipse RS / 5-Speed / Aerogear Body / Coated in Magnetic Red Metallic rev.2 / T3 Turbo Intercooled @ 8 psi / More at http://home.insightbb.com/~mgalyan/
Mark Galyan - Indianapolis, Indiana

60181, RE: Rebuild your turbo! back from the dead.
Posted by WIKKI, Nov-04-03 07:47 PM
that is possible but not likely. I have it tapped about 1 inch from the top of the pan, and used a very large 90 degree angle plumbing elbow with a bulkhead nut on the inside of the pan. my drain hose does have to snake a bit over and behind the lower water hard line in front of the block, but nothing major.
I have a hard time believing that it has to be a PERFECT straight drain line from the turbo. it can't be that finicky.
60201, RE: Rebuild your turbo! back from the dead.
Posted by Corbin, Nov-05-03 05:46 AM

The oil drain just has to slope downwards for its entire length. It should be a 3/8" or 1/2" line. When my turbo went bad, it spit oil out of the compressor outlet and that circulated through all the pipe (by BOV would barf oil). There would also be a drip of oil on the compressor inlet.

Corbin

'95 ESI-T
HRC+FMIC+ETC...



Gimme fuel...Gimme fire...Gimme that which I desire
60245, RE: Rebuild your turbo! back from the dead.
Posted by MetalJim, Nov-05-03 07:06 PM
Originally posted by WIKKI
Jim, you haven't installed your turbo yet have you? is there any way you would know if your rebuild was successful?

Nope, not really. Looks good to me on the bench. There was pretty bad shaft play when I got it. Turned out that one of the bearings was pretty worn. Other than that, the seal for the compressor housing wasn't quite right. After the rebuild, the shaft play is minimal. Hope it stays together for a while....but yeah, I haven't installed it yet.


95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed
15.901 @ 88.34mph
Jeep TB writeup - http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html
60261, RE: Rebuild your turbo! back from the dead.
Posted by Dirty, Nov-06-03 12:38 PM
What is the number on the bearing? Has anyone tried to replace it with a ball bearing? Also, what kind of bearings are in the S16g?