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2312, aHHHHH my fuel pumps are way damn too loud!
Posted by 95ESi, Mar-03-01 09:48 PM
OK so I have an intank walbro and HRC's inline fuel pump..

It's damn loud...I hear this hummmm now instead of a high pitch whine (when I just had the walbro).

It's driving me nuts...what's worst, I hear my fuel tank 'gurgle.' Is this normal cause of the hiflow?

Would it lower the sound if I cover under my rear seats with sound deadoning material?


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2313, RE: aHHHHH my fuel pumps are way damn too loud!
Posted by RS_Guy, Mar-03-01 10:08 PM
May I ask you why you have both???????

Some suggestions...

Make sure you have done the fuel pump rewire, my fuel pump changes pitch when I turn my headlights on...( I have a Walbro/Holley 255 High Pressure).

Try Dynamating under your back seat.

Try wrapping the fuel lines coming out of the back seat and going under the car with some cloth..or sponge, just make sure that it doesn't make static electricity ;-)

I dunno if this works, but try mounting the external fuel pump to the chassis of the car with a rubber O-ring between the pump holder and the chassis.

Get a LOUDER stereo!

Guy
RS_Guy



13.9sec @ 105mph passes
w/ Blown piston rings,
on Stock Internals
at 10psi Boost....
2314, RE: aHHHHH my fuel pumps are way damn too loud!
Posted by 95ESi, Mar-04-01 08:22 AM
I have both because I'm paranoid that I wouldn't have enough fuel flow at high fuel pressures.

One pump would be fine if I had larger injcetors...but which I don't, so this will have to suffice for now.


>May I ask you why you
>have both???????
>
>Some suggestions...
>
>Make sure you have done the
>fuel pump rewire, my fuel
>pump changes pitch when I
>turn my headlights on...( I
>have a Walbro/Holley 255 High
>Pressure).
>
>Try Dynamating under your back seat.
>
>
>Try wrapping the fuel lines coming
>out of the back seat
>and going under the car
>with some cloth..or sponge, just
>make sure that it doesn't
>make static electricity ;-)
>
>I dunno if this works, but
>try mounting the external fuel
>pump to the chassis of
>the car with a rubber
>O-ring between the pump holder
>and the chassis.
>
>Get a LOUDER stereo!
>
>Guy
>RS_Guy
>
>
>
>13.9sec @ 105mph passes
> w/ Blown piston rings,
> on Stock Internals
> at 10psi Boost....


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2315, Good Idea...
Posted by Skrilla, Mar-04-01 12:00 PM
...after Hoot's explanation of the Star Pump limits

Skrilla
'97 Base Talon NA
"Technology: The Only Replacement for Displacement"
"Peace and Turbo Grease"
2316, RE: Good Idea...
Posted by JasonESi_T, Mar-04-01 03:15 PM
I agree. That post by Hoot should definitely be "remembered." heh

Here it is:
http://www.2gnt.com/dcforum/DCForumID16/259.html

I think a lot of miscalculations and misconceptions were present before this post. I admit I was misled and thought wrongly as well (...and probably gave out some bad advice as well).

Bottom line.... any single fuel pump combined with stock injectors will probably not handle your fuel needs above 5 psi or so. Anything above 90psi's of fuel pressure with stock injectors, and you'll start losing injector efficiency and volume.

The reason's pretty obvious after reading this post as to why HRC chose to go with an in-line as opposed to merely a in-tank replacement.

Jason
98' Eagle Talon ESi-T
Mitsu Super 16g Turbo(HRC)


http://springfielddsm.homestead.com/JasonsPics.html

2317, Fuel pump noise...
Posted by JasonESi_T, Mar-04-01 03:18 PM
Oh and Leon,

My HRC fuel pump was more loud before I rechecked all my fuel lines and MADE SURE there weren't any kinks or sharp bends in the fuel lines. So give em a look. If your Fuel pump doesn't have a free flow supply of fuel, it will get loud. I had a kink and got rid of it, it helped both my fuel pressure and the noise.

Also, did you recieve the rubber brackets that came with the HRC in-line fuel pump? (That might help...)

Jason
98' Eagle Talon ESi-T
Mitsu Super 16g Turbo(HRC)


http://springfielddsm.homestead.com/JasonsPics.html

2318, RE: Fuel pump noise...
Posted by 95ESi, Mar-04-01 07:30 PM
I couldn't use the provided mounting hardware cause my Talon is an early model 1995. For some reason, some hard lines run along the chasis and is in the way of where to bracket is supposed to mount. Plus there isn't enough clearance to even orient the bracket there! ARGH

I just ended up hose clamping the pump to an aluminum bar bolted to the chasis.

I don't think I have any kinks in my hose between the pumps...The only thing I don't like (and may be a problem) is the hose has a small radius bend in it (~1" radius).

Could that be the problem? I don't think the hose in between the two pumps would affect the in-line's performance?


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2319, RE: Fuel pump noise...
Posted by JasonESi_T, Mar-05-01 01:21 AM
It's hard to say without seeing the small hose turn myself. I know that I have a lot of fuel hose traffic in the small alcove crevice area right in front of the fuel tank (where my fuel filter sits). I went through there after I installed my in-line and sort of straightened things out to some degree. I know there is some situations still though that have small radius bends as well. The thing I relly looked for though was to eliminate and bends in the fuel lines. So long as the lines were not kinked, I was happy. I made sure the lines maintained their full hose capacity throughout.

Also, are you at least using the fuel pump clamps that are lined with rubber? I really recommend those. They're pretty nice.

Jason
98' Eagle Talon ESi-T
Mitsu Super 16g Turbo(HRC)


http://springfielddsm.homestead.com/JasonsPics.html

2320, RE: Fuel pump noise...
Posted by 95ESi, Mar-05-01 03:01 AM
YEah...those clamps are good...but there's no way I can use them at all! :(

ARGGHH...guess I'll have to suffer until I get larger injectors! That or if I go crazy from the noise..... :(


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2321, RE: Fuel pump noise...
Posted by MuRiX, Mar-05-01 04:25 AM
Then take out the intake, go back to the stock intank, and use just the HRC provided inline. Having both is overkill anyway. That should reduce some of the noice. Oh, and of course, as Guy said, get a louder stereo.

MuRiX
97 Eclipse GS HRC Stage II
And a whole lot of other mods...
89 Accord LSi - yes it's mine :(
http://murix.home.icq.com/index.html

2322, RE: Fuel pump noise...
Posted by 95ESi, Mar-05-01 05:34 PM
Actually, the HRC inline is monster loud...it's like it's twice as loud as the walbro..

go figure..

no stereo! heheh gotta save weight! :)


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2323, RE: Fuel pump noise...
Posted by JasonESi_T, Mar-06-01 01:41 AM
Well,

just so you know, I can't even hear mine with the windows rolled up (it's COLD).

Jason
98' Eagle Talon ESi-T
Mitsu Super 16g Turbo(HRC)


http://springfielddsm.homestead.com/JasonsPics.html

2324, RE: Fuel pump noise...
Posted by 95ESi, Mar-06-01 04:24 AM
damnit...maybe I need my walbro pump to break in first? hmmmm



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