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Topic subjectStupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
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19725, Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by Kiku, Apr-14-02 01:17 PM
So i bought this datalogger from www.obd-2.com website a LONG time ago, but never used until yesterday. Man was I dissapointed. I couldnt even get fast o2 readings, even less datalog for knock - unless i dont know where to look, you cant even read knock!!!

Am i missing something? can someone help out?
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1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
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19726, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by VX100, Apr-14-02 01:31 PM
Kiku, OBD2 does not support a very fast data capture rate, typically 6-8 signals a second. And, from what I remember, there is no way to read knock sum values with OBD2 (unlike the logger for 1st gen DSMs, which can read knock sum values)

The software for the pocketloggers (www.pocketlogger.com) has a feature (unlike the obd2 software) that lets you increase the data capture rate to be higher than OBD2 normally captures data. Instead of 6-8 signals a second, I'm able to get 18 signals a second with mine, but it varies from computer to computer. Normally you should be able to get at least 10-12 signals a second. It's not fast like the 1st gen DSMs (something like 50 signals a second) but it's better than 6.
19727, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by jamesman, Apr-14-02 03:12 PM
okay for the pocketlogger, which cable do we buy, the dsm one or the obd-II one, i have a 95 NT eclipse. which i believe is obd-1 but i do have 2 plugs under the dash.
thanks
james
19728, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by optimuspeterson, Apr-14-02 03:40 PM
are there different adapters for pocketlogges and laptops? if so how much are these and what about different software for each type?
19729, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by Fast420A, Apr-14-02 08:33 PM
The cable you need from WWW.POCKETLOGGER.COM is the Chrysler one, NOT the DSM one.



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19730, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by mcgyvr, Apr-15-02 01:24 AM
is it correct that for 95's the manual is ODB2 and the automatic is ODB1
19731, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by DarkOne, Apr-15-02 02:44 AM
They are both OBD1, but have both 1&2 connectors.

Vinnie: Log for timing advance, not knock. The best setting's i've found to keep fast, semi-reliable data rates for ISO are 90, 12, 12 .. it may be different for you.

The slow data rates and disconnects are frustrating i admit, but it works, so it's better than nothing.
19732, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by jamesman, Apr-15-02 02:44 AM
i have a 95 which was made in may of 95 and it is a manual and it has both plugs in it obd1 and 2
lates
james
19733, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by Kiku, Apr-15-02 04:04 AM
How do i monitor the ignition advances/retards?

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Vinnie Lima
kiku@asog.net
AIM: Kiku888
1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
14.7@97 mph@6psi
Proud member of the
ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew

19734, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by DarkOne, Apr-15-02 04:26 AM
If you look under the "Data: tab (i believe), ther eis a paramter labeled spark adv - spark advance. Send this, and it will read out your timing advance. Anything less that 14* advance, and it is being pulled back.. tune for as high as you can get. 20ish is good.
19735, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by HadesOmega, Apr-15-02 10:27 AM
so umm 95s can also be datalogged also? How just get the same cable and different software the OBDII guys use? I wanna hook my laptop up to my car too :)
19736, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by Corbin, Apr-15-02 11:19 AM
1995's can datalog with the exact same software/hardware as the 1996+ guys. I'm using the www.obd-2.com software and a cheap P75 laptop. I have found it invaluable for tuning. When tuning a new fuel system, I keep the car in closed loop and watch my fuel trims. Adjust the fuel system to minimize trim.


Corbin

'95 ESI-T
HRC+FMIC+ETC...



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19737, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by Patrick, Apr-15-02 11:10 AM
Hell my obd2.com datalogger wont even log my o2 values! And I know what you mean by the aquisition being so slow. I would start my log at the top of 2nd gear and by the time it logged the first value and went through the rest of the set and back around to the first value again to start a second set, I was already in the middle of 4th gear!!... what a piece of junk. I've already taken Todd's advice on this and ordered the pocketlogger program. I'm excited to see how it'll perform, if not just for the fact I can log 02 values on it

Patrick

19738, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by Super20G, Apr-15-02 12:58 PM
my software from obd-2.com locks up every other second, always disconnects and reconnects, takes half an hour of trying to get a few values to read...
19739, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by thedawg, Apr-17-02 04:02 PM
Brad- try this software, and use a shorter or shielded cat-5 cable.

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/obd/obdtool.zip
19740, RE: Stupid OBD-2.com datalogger...help
Posted by Super20G, Apr-17-02 04:11 PM
Thanks a lot, I'll try a shorter cable, I made a 25 ft one, but I'll try the 5 ft one it came with with the laptop...