hey whats up im new hear i own a 96 dodge avenger with a 420a engine and i know alot of your people have this engine so i wanted to ask you guys a question that i have asked alot of people but hey the more opiouns the better

ok im am going boost by the end of this year and here is my setup i am getting HRC stage 3 which runs max 15psiwhich comes with alot of stuff but also im getting whats below if anyone thinks i have left something out or should take something off feel free to comment

1) hi performance Spark plug wires and new hi performance spark plugs
2) Gauges: EGT, Boost(comes with the hrc kit), and Air/Fuel gauge
3) Turbo Timer
4)a hi flow cat and a cat back exhaust
5)S-AFC
feel free to make any comments

welcome!
don't know off the top of my head what all comes with the stage 3 kit.
but to run that psi you will need
a good bottom end
ignition retard
and bigger injectors
those are the main things that i Can think of.
the others will fill u in in anything that i missed.

Late

Since you're running a stage 3 system and not a 2 AND you're an automatic, you might think about a couple other importantant mods. Stage 3 is a pretty decent jump from 2 since it includes enough HP to go beyond what even your stock mechanics may be able to support.

Thus, you probably will want:

1) high performance ignition (i.e. MSD-2)
2) transmission cooler
3) transmission temperature gauge
4) possible transmission upgrade help from Level-10, if necessary
5) 440cc injectors
6) Mobil 1 sythetic blend

You could always save money with not using a turbo timer. With better blended oils and better constructed turbos w/ bearings...stories of coking turbos are virtually non-existant.

Whats up with you dudes, long time turboer and Hahn supporter Jason and established, haven't blown it up yet turboer whodatt1

Of all people I know you both know the Hahn stage 3 comes with JE pistons and crower rods as well as 450cc injectos, fuel controller and ignition amplifier...remember "complete" and "staged approach"

Shame on both of you mentioning sturdy bottom ends and upgrade ignitions. He's probably at ASOG talking about you now :-) :-) :-o :-o

LOL Stan! :-) Well, I woulda just recommended he go with stage 1/2 for now, but he waaanted the stage 3. (hehehe) ;-)

lol, yeah, yeah...

well since the kit comes with huge injectors and fuel system do i still need teh s-afc
i know some about turbos but im no expert so i learn as i go along

LOL, what are you people talking about with the injecters and stuff. The HRC Stage 3 comes with everything you need to boost to 15psi safely. What you said you were getting is GOOD!! HRC boosts 25psi on stock tranny so I wouldnt worry about tranny. BUT you will need a Boost controller to achieve 15psi of BOOST. You might also want to pay the extra $300.00 to get their AWESOME front mount intercooler.

HRC can provide a 15psi spring so a boost controller might not be necessary. From my understanding, HRC will provide you with their own upgraded fuel management so that will negate the need for an AFC or injectors. I think you did not mention an exhaust. Are we sure that the Stage III setup comes with internals? Is the Stage III actually even available?

i thank every one for their help and opiouns the stage 3 comes with a boost controller and i dont need a s-afc the kit comes with injectors and everything, and new internals,
so heres my list
1) hi performance Spark plug wires and new hi performance spark plugs
2) Gauges: EGT, Boost(comes with the hrc kit), and Air/Fuel gauge
3) Turbo Timer
4)a hi flow cat and a cat back exhaust
the reason i want to go with stage 3 is u dont have to worry about blowing your internals and then not having an engine
well if anyone else wants to comment
FEEL FREE PLEASE

dont forget their front mount intercooler. Only $300.00 for an awesome LARGE badass intercooler. Plus, it just looks scary. Ive had people NOT want to race just because they can see the intercooler. oh well. But if you ever plan to run anymore boost than 15psi a front mount will help a lot and you cant get a brand new one with warrenties for less than $1000.00 ANYWHERE.

SORRY forgot to put that on my list
oh hell yes im getting the FMIC , it does look sweat as hell