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Topic subjectturbo build
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108970, turbo build
Posted by C-No, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Im looking to build a turbo motor im trying to do it the most inexpensive way i can without buying no name brand products any suggestions or ides would be greatly appreciated
108971, RE: turbo build
Posted by shatteredsilence, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
there are a ton of threads on this topic already... please search before you post a new thread
108972, RE: turbo build
Posted by Slo2g, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Keep a constant check on the classifieds here and on neons.org and dsmtuners.
108973, RE: turbo build
Posted by junkyarddsm, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
eagle is the only brand that I have heard of that make h-beam rods for the 420a and I have seen a few pistons for pretty cheap to handle boost ill look on my bookmarks and see if I can find them again.
108989, RE: turbo build
Posted by streetlightning, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Budget builds are fun, but dont last long (typically). You need to remember these things

1. you get what you pay for.
Buy cheap, get cheap parts...
2. FAST, RELIABLE AND CHEAP.
pick 2.
3.Do it right the first time or do it twice and pay tipple.

Dont expect big things out of it..

Your limited on rods and pistons.. Like said above keep an eye out in the classifieds.. thats really your only option if you wanna cheap out.

This "sport" is a money pit... Ive learned that if you spend the cash upfront and buy quality stuff.. you have a much better outcome. can quality stuff break after 500 miles, sure can. but very unlikely, and if it does its usually b/c something else was wrong.. IMO man, if you want to boost a car cheap, go get a civic.

IMO, it would be hard to boost a car for under 1000... and thats just staying on 8 psi, which we all know, is fun for about 10 mins, then we want more.. then your looking at several K to do it proper..
108998, RE: turbo build
Posted by Slo2g, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Actually you can buy pistons and rods for these cars that will handle what most 2gnt'ers can throw at it for around 800 bucks. Thats not throwing machine work into the equation.
108999, RE: turbo build
Posted by streetlightning, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
no one said he couldn't...? then theres potentially bearings, and machine work.. and then ARP head studs, a new MLS hg, and while your in there, prolly smart to do the water pump and oil pump and timing componets.. maybe even upgrade to mech.. he will be well into the 1600+..then we go into trans.. lsd's and clutches to get the power down.. but thats doing it right. sure he could thro 800 in rods and pistons and mayb get outa it at about 1g.. but i wouldn't rely on it..

i meant he is "limited" to JE/Wiesco.. as they are pretty much the only ones out there and are the cheapest, and prolly what he will find in the classifieds..
109001, RE: turbo build
Posted by Slo2g, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Yes, but if you go that route then by the time you stop saying, " well I'm gonna be in there so while I'm there I might as well do XXXXX and if I'm doing that then I might as well go ahead and get XXXXXX too!" you'll end up with a LOT of money in a car that you MIGHT have been just as happy with 5000 dollars ago. Sometimes its better to do it in stages.
109002, RE: turbo build
Posted by streetlightning, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I agree, do itin stages.. but why pull the motor X times.. IMO, i do it right, ill build the WHOLE bottom.. not just nickle and dime with pistons, and yup snow balls real quick. But then i dont have to fear ripping everything out just to upgrade one part and end up re-doing work.. Like the head studs.. He is already there, doesnt make sense to not do it.. plus you can re use them.. other wise how many time will he buy the tty bolts.. and if he goes mech tensioner, he wont have to worry about the lame hydro one.. You cant deny these are all things that should be done on a proper rebuild.. sure you can skip steps and it will work. but thats where the cheap beats out the reliability..

then again smart people have GOALS.. and can understand what it takes to get to the goal.. so OP, perhaps you should figure out what you want outa the car, and then we can help you cherry pick what parts are useful and what parts are not.. But for the bottom end .. its pretty general..
109068, RE: turbo build
Posted by Broke4going, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Instead of shouting search i'll agree with streetlightning, choose the goal you want and then start buying. I made the mistake soooo many times over again in the last 10 years... excitment made me buy XYZ part and then later, ended up not even being able to use it because it didn't fit my ever changing goals! haha.

My VERY BEST advice if you can handle this, save your money in the amount of each part you want at retail in a savings account, by the time you have the money for all the parts you want you will either A) be able to build your dream motor/trans/turbo or B)Buy another car with all of it already done.

I do encourage you to have the restraint to save... I always hate to see those classified ads titled: fully built engine and parts for sale :with a tag like "can't find time or means to finish"... so sad.

To address the thread issue though, at retail, Eagle/Wiseco is the best value most often. Personally I run Eagle/JE combo 8.8:1
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