Not saying its not.......

But before I shell out the money for one, what kind of increase can I expect? What cars can I beat that I couldnt beat before?

on 5psi with stage I you should be about as fast as a type-r,
I'm not to sure, I've always had the stage II. But your whp should be right around 180

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"Thats not an FMIC, it's um... my alum radiator"
http://www.ichibanracing.com

hey speed, where did you get your accel injectors from?




chris
blitzdsm1@aol.com

Yucky, only 40 horses from a stage 1......lol what should I expect to get when I go stage 5, cept for all four tires spinning horribly fast.


-Michael
1999 GS Eclipse
Soon to be Stage 5 GS-X'd

Wanted:
:Sensei type 1 bumper
:Blitz style 2 sideskirts
:and help finding a bumper that will look good with the above combination..

180 is wheel HP holmes.




chris
blitzdsm1@aol.com

ahhhh thas more like it lol, I thought you only meant added to the stock ponies lol


-Michael
1999 GS Eclipse
Soon to be Stage 5 GS-X'd

Wanted:
:Sensei type 1 bumper
:Blitz style 2 sideskirts
:and help finding a bumper that will look good with the above combination..

i personally dont think it is worth it for a stage 1



Kory
fasteclipse@cisco.com
aim sn: dukmahsik
Happy Honda Hunting!

I got my injectors from a place in mississippi, when i was on the super street tour. But i think jc whitney carries them for about the same price

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HKS Type-1 BOV
HKS T-Timer
Turbo XS MBC
Apexi-N1 Catback
Test pipe
Autometer Boost Gauge
Autometer A/F Gauge
Autometer Monster tack
Altezza style lights
Full body graphics
Brembo d/s rotors

Sitting in my house!!
CFDF Clutch



"Thats not an FMIC, it's um... my alum radiator"
http://www.ichibanracing.com

Well, I just put the HRC stage I on my avenger. There's a noticable difference. I really wanted boost so I started small. It does get up and go, make no mistake about that. Plus my car is about 2-300 lbs heavier than an eclipse. Not to mention it gets the engine used to the boost instead of just nailing it with 8psi that stage II would give you.

Just my .02

Stage 1 is what I had for about 5k miles. It was DEFINTELY worth it. I absolultely loved it. Boost is boost in my book. And boost is absoultey the shiznits.

Of course you get more power with stage 2, but the difference in stage 1 and n/a is a friggin worlds apart as opposed to the difference in stage 1 and 2.


Jason
98' Eagle Talon ESi-T
Mitsu Super 16g Turbo(HRC)/Custom FMIC

http://springfielddsm.homestead.com/JasonsPics.html

LAST EDITED ON 16-Oct-01 AT 10:22 AM (PST)

Not worth it???? A stage 1 will put you around 180 whp from somewhere around 125-130whp stock. 50-55whp for $2000 is pretty damn good except for NOS but you get your 180hp all the time instead of when you press a button or flick a switch. Unless someone else can name another mod that gives you that much hp for a less amount of money ...


-Avenger
99 Eclipse RS
Power up with 2 scoops of candy coated kaboom.

car jack a supra, a gun should cost 100-500 bux




Sean G
vegaspimpin 99 gs ounce edition (wish it was a Q P)
http://seangordon1.tripod.com

short ram intake w/custom dual ram air
2.5 catback w/5zigen muff
NGK BKR5E-11
8.5 mm magnecores
AFX UDP in da mail
hurricane gs shiftermod
symborski shifter kit

LMFAO!! Nice Sean! LOL... I think thats the route I'll take! ;)



Josh

95 Eclipse RS
Bosch Platinum+ Plugs
Blue Lightning Plug Wires
Clear Corners and Bumpers
Hyper Whites all around
Alpine Deck
Phoenix Gold XJ2300
2 JL W3 Subs
All Blue Interior Lighting
New Motor Mounts
And last but not least, Unbelievable wheel hop on them right hand corners! ;)

I got parts listings, how-to's and walktroughs, pics of my ride, etc. Check it out:

http://www.ssihost.com/s/jeclipse/

Does a stage 1 make a NT faster than a stock TSI or GS-T?

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HRC claims: stage one is UP TO 200-225 crank HP (5-7psi).. thats a 60-85HP boost. and you WILL be faster than a GST/TSI

quite a bit faster than a FWD 4G63. i think from a standstill start, a stage one 420A would only have a slight edge on a GSX/TSIAWD. turbo is the biggest horsepower per dollar, period, including nitrous (nitrous is all good but it disqualifies itself because it will cost more than a turbo the longer you use it and its temporary). bill hahn had a comparison of the HP/Dollar of a turbo compared to nitrous and bolt ons a while back but i cant remember where i saw it. it may have been on his site. you may say you only want power temporarily...bullshit. ive got the turbo and i drive under boost ALL THE TIME. i would go insane if i had to press a button then let off after 10 seconds. once youve got it you will want it all the time. see all these people getting greedy with turbos and blowing up? why? more power...that same hunger wont blow up a NOS'd car, it will put a hole in your wallet from bottle refills. id only say nitrous is superior if youre using your car for racing only. (or if youre broke).

www.blue2gnt.homestead.com www.geocities.com/blue2gnt

If i were to buy a new kit i'd get a stage 1, you can convert to stage II for a lot less than they charge for the extra's.
I wouldn't get my hopes up to high for gs-t/gsx, those cars are on a whole nother level. Anyone who races isn't going to keep one stock because horsepower comes so cheap its ridiculous, and even with the t25 they can get 250-270 hp, which is just about what the stock 420A limits you to.



javi d
vroom n' boom

Well I did the Staged upgrade path and it worx well for me, since I'm a poor ass student boy. Got the kit and you can really feel the difference. The power is overwhelming at first, if it's only 40 horsies there is a big difference. It'll even pull on higher gears. Problem with stage 1 is the lack of the intercooler, the engine will get really hot. I installed a huge oil cooler just to be on the safe side. If your gonna get the kit now I'd say definately go for it since it's also winter and you'll have less heating problems.

The biggest appeal to buying the Stage 1 for me is the fact that I didn't pay like 800 dolla more for just an intercooler. I went to the junkyard and found myself a starion intercooler for a reasonable price and bought some piping. Heh if you do you upgrades in stages though, you learn to appreciate the power you got and learn to use it to the full ability. On a warm day I can drive the car to the limit because I can cope with the power, but at night the car turns into a monster and it's a whole new ball game ^_^


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