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107351, building a heat shield
Posted by twinvenges, Oct-22-09 04:59 PM
I have a hahn set up, and i dont have any bolts on my compression housing so i cant do the cooking pot mod, so i was going to build a shield that would connect to my manifold via 2 standoffs and to bolts. my question is, is 18ga SS a good choice, i believe so since it should keep in heat and not dissipate it at a crazy rate. the other question is, if it sits about an inch off my manifold, and an inch or so all the way around the cartrage, will i need to worry about the heat my heater core is seeing, or the block to head interface, since more heat will be "traped" in there?

distance from t-stat and heater core ok?




i just dont want the heat from under the shield to warp the head/block interface or melt/heat up my heater core and tstat
107354, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Oct-23-09 08:21 AM
i ceramic coated my mani (professionally) and i bought a turbo beanie
107355, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by mitsu95023, Oct-23-09 08:41 AM
Originally posted by 420agreenvilleSC
i ceramic coated my mani (professionally) and i bought a turbo beanie


hey 420agreenvilleSC is there a place you would recommend for cermaic coating? i cant seem to find a local shop so ill just have to ship out my downpipe and manifold. thanks

+1 on the turbo beanie
107356, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Oct-23-09 10:00 AM
i was gonna do jethot, but they're too expensive. Just try calling numerous local shops. ask them if they do it, or if they know anyone who does. Got mine coated w/ the same material jethot uses for $75. You might can even have it done by them too, just ship it to them. Call around first.
107357, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by twinvenges, Oct-23-09 11:47 AM
i guess i should mention mines ceramic coated as well, i just want to know if it will have negative effects on my t-stat ect.. its more of a cleaning up the engine bay.. my coating is a little duller then it used to be.
107358, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Oct-23-09 03:15 PM
yea... cuz the manifold has everything to do w/ the tstat??? :wary
107359, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by streetlightning, Oct-23-09 03:37 PM
ug.lol.. the heat shield would cover the manifold,(pic 1) thus get hot b/c its connected to the manifold, the shield would be like 1/4" or 1/2" away from the heater core and t-stat housing, thus i was wondering if the radiant heat from the heat shield would cause a problem to those components
107360, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Oct-23-09 04:00 PM
Originally posted by streetlightning
ug.lol.. the heat shield would cover the manifold,(pic 1) thus get hot b/c its connected to the manifold, the shield would be like 1/4" or 1/2" away from the heater core and t-stat housing, thus i was wondering if the radiant heat from the heat shield would cause a problem to those components


nope. only problem you'll have is the 5/8, or is it 5/16"?, heater hose 4 inch section. that gets weak no matter what people do. you'll be fine
107361, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by bullettdsm, Oct-23-09 07:06 PM
Originally posted by mitsu95023
is there a place you would recommend for cermaic coating? i cant seem to find a local shop so ill just have to ship out my downpipe and manifold. thanks +1 on the turbo beanie

You're in Mass so I strongly recommend Northeast Coatings in East Berlin, Ct. 860-656-7759. These guys are good. Done many many parts for people I know. Recently did my 10.5 pistons. Came out nice. Talk to Al. Tell him you got their name off of CCDSM (Connecticut Club DSM where they are a sponsor). May help you with pricing.



107367, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by mitsu95023, Oct-24-09 02:30 PM
hey thanks Bullet, im actually in CT. for the weekend so ill give them a call and see if i can stop by there place, thanks again
107375, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by Corbin, Oct-25-09 07:27 PM
If you can figure out a way to securely attach it, then do it. The manifold and turbo get hot enough that radiant heat from them are an issue. That little rubber hose is especially vulnerable. Don't worry about the thermostat housing. A stainless sheet will reflect the radiation and trap a layer of air between it and the manifold/turbo to reduce convection. When I had an HRC kit, I bent the tab on the heater pipe to allow a sheetmetal panel to be bolted to it. It worked well, but only covered the manifold.

Corbin
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107384, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by twinvenges, Oct-26-09 04:28 PM
i was thinking tack on 2 threaded stand off on the mani, and then bolt the heat shield onto the standoffs..?
107402, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by Corbin, Oct-30-09 06:33 PM
If you weld anything to the manifold, you create a stress riser that might eventually result in a crack. It might be fine, but it is an unnecessary risk. I use something like this:



It rattles a little, but I can't hear it when I'm driving.

Corbin
'95 ESI-T

Now with more power and fewer leaks



Humble servant of the Wiki
107403, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by 420agreenvilleSC, Oct-30-09 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Corbin
If you weld anything to the manifold, you create a stress riser that might eventually result in a crack. It might be fine, but it is an unnecessary risk. I use something like this: It rattles a little, but I can't hear it when I'm driving.


how would you implement something like that for the 'star' mani? there aren't any breaks in the mani where you can loop something around it...
107404, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by streetlightning, Oct-30-09 07:41 PM
could it bolt on via tabs where the mani bolts to the head?
107407, RE: building a heat shield
Posted by Corbin, Nov-01-09 07:08 PM
Originally posted by 420agreenvilleSC
how would you implement something like that for the 'star' mani? there aren't any breaks in the mani where you can loop something around it...


Yep, you do need an individual runner to wrap the wire around. I would probably try to use one of the head studs to nut some sort of bracket(s) to. The brackets could be aluminum and the heat sheild could be pop-rivited to the brackets.

Corbin
'95 ESI-T

Now with more power and fewer leaks



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