Here's the dyno results from NOPI


I kept the image big so you can read it (might load slow on slow connections) sorry

Star Stage II (BB)
HKS Type-1 BOV
HKS T-Timer
Turbo XS MBC
Apexi-N1 Catback
Test pipe
Autometer Boost Gauge
Autometer A/F Gauge
Autometer Monster tack
Altezza style lights
Full body graphics
Brembo d/s rotors

Sitting in my house!!
CFDF Clutch



"Thats not an FMIC, it's um... my alum radiator"
http://www.ichibanracing.com

LAST EDITED ON 10-Oct-01 AT 10:28 AM (PST)

Dude that is great! Keep it up and you'll be killin SVT Rustangs and SS Camaros! Got any QM times?

1995 RS
16x8 Momo's
CAI
4-2-1 Headers
2.75 in Tenzo cat-back exhaust
carbon fiber s%^t
2nd gen altezza's
GTS carbon look headlight covers
Apex-I Super AFC
Eiboch lowered
Momo pedals
Indiglo gauges
Autometer gauges/pillar pod
Front, Rear, upper and lower strut braces(neuspeed)
Clarion auto pc with navigation sytem
Clear front corners
Ported throttle bodie(55mm)
Racing stripes (one 2" one 6" side by side down the passenger side)
Custom front grill
"mitsubishi inside" sticker (my favorite)
I got lots more mods but Im tired of typing :)

I WANT A TURBO NOW!!!

Why not "make" another supercharger flossinpnoyracer? j/k

Good numbers Speedracer! Get an ignition, AFC, larger injectors and CRANK UP THE BOOST!!





http://hometown.aol.com/ohshootuhh/

All Motor Beast in need of MAJOR TUNING

Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Nameless Cold Air Intake with a K&N Filter
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

i think i need a turbo.

*pats on da back :) good job, duuuugg


"Kaptain Mike"
http://www.heavenz-not-0verflowing.com/KaptainKillgore/index.htm
theblueghost@hotmail.com
1997 RS

Does the HAHN kit get that high of results? Cause i was just lookin at the site yesterday and it said stage II kit only gets 250-275 to THE CRANKSHAFT. I would think theyd be about the same but what do you guys think?

OZ racing package
AEM cold air intake
Sidewinder alarm w/remote start
AFX underdrive pulley on the way

They should be close, there both good kits. But if you put them side by side (the turbos) the hahn is tiny compared to the t3/t4 that the star has :-)

Star Stage II (BB)
HKS Type-1 BOV
HKS T-Timer
Turbo XS MBC
Apexi-N1 Catback
Test pipe
Autometer Boost Gauge
Autometer A/F Gauge
Autometer Monster tack
Altezza style lights
Full body graphics
Brembo d/s rotors

Sitting in my house!!
CFDF Clutch



"Thats not an FMIC, it's um... my alum radiator"
http://www.ichibanracing.com

I thought the super 16g was bigger??

OZ racing package
AEM cold air intake
Sidewinder alarm w/remote start
AFX underdrive pulley

I've only saw one (on a guy's car that was on the sstour) He had the hrc stage 2. His turbo lookd a lot smaller than mine. But thats about all i know about the hrc kit. But i think you can also upgrade the turbos in the kits to bigger ones, and i never asked him the size of turbo he had.

Star Stage II (BB)
HKS Type-1 BOV
HKS T-Timer
Turbo XS MBC
Apexi-N1 Catback
Test pipe
Autometer Boost Gauge
Autometer A/F Gauge
Autometer Monster tack
Altezza style lights
Full body graphics
Brembo d/s rotors

Sitting in my house!!
CFDF Clutch



"Thats not an FMIC, it's um... my alum radiator"
http://www.ichibanracing.com

big 16G (hrc kit) is smaller and flows less den a T3/T4... i think a 20G flows less than a t3/T4 too



Kory
fasteclipse@cisco.com
aim sn: dukmahsik
Happy Honda Hunting!

Both turbos are great. But don't think that because the 16g is smaller it cant produce hp. Many GSX and GSt owners upgrade to the 16g and run 20-25psi and run 12's and 13's in the quarter mile. The 16g is a little smaller but it only means quicker spool up....hehe }>

DAVE_FL
97 T-GS
HRC stage 2

Orlando DSM www.orl.dsm.org
DAVE99@cfl.rr.com

But Speedracer has a BB turbo if I remember correctly so his spools up fast too! :)




http://hometown.aol.com/ohshootuhh/

All Motor Beast in need of MAJOR TUNING

Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Nameless Cold Air Intake with a K&N Filter
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

Yes i do }>
The hrc should spool up a bit faster than the regular t3/t4 (since it's smaller) but top end the t3/t4 will produce way more power. I think it's capeable of up to 500hp before a bigger tutbo is needed. not usre though

Star Stage II (BB)
HKS Type-1 BOV
HKS T-Timer
Turbo XS MBC
Apexi-N1 Catback
Test pipe
Autometer Boost Gauge
Autometer A/F Gauge
Autometer Monster tack
Altezza style lights
Full body graphics
Brembo d/s rotors

Sitting in my house!!
CFDF Clutch



"Thats not an FMIC, it's um... my alum radiator"
http://www.ichibanracing.com

All your turbocharger questions can be answered on www.turbochargers.com. They give info on the amount CFM that all three turbos put out. The t3/t4 is bigger than a 20g and 16g. I was suprised that it was bigger than a 20g, but it is a huge difference when you check out the amount of CFM the t3/t4 puts out.

Star Stage 1 E-trim and stock exhaust
14.91 @ 93.94 with 3psi of boost
60ft-2.21
330ft-6.27
1/8-9.62
Best 60ft ever- 2.21

Mark, lets run both our cars at like 20psi and see how the two turbo's compare, I'll take my sub enclosure out of the back and we should be even in weight just about... It'll be a good test. Don't you guys think so? A Star package with a HRC stage V fuel system and a spearco FMIC vs. a HRC stage V super20g turbo/ stage V fuel set up with a apexI FMIC...
--
Brad Rickard
98 GS HRC Stage V (nuff said)

It would be nice to know some TQ/HP comparisons between companies.

How about you guys get together and DYNO both the cars.




http://hometown.aol.com/ohshootuhh/

All Motor Beast in need of MAJOR TUNING

Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Nameless Cold Air Intake with a K&N Filter
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

Well, when I get it tuned, I am getting it dyno'd.. Mark, you wanna get your dyno'd? I'm sure you do. I'm gonna go to that place by IUS.

I'll post results asap, but it'll be awhile before I get my car tuned decent. Sounds like mark's car is tuned decent now though, 25psi runs smoking a fixed up SS, good job mark, glad you didnt sell it yet?
--
Brad Rickard
98 GS HRC Stage V (nuff said)

Kory you are correct....as far as dyno comparison you can't dyno 2 different cars with similar setups and compare turbo's Only way to do that is on the same car with the same setup. To get true accurate numbers..of course thats IMO. Good Dyno numbers by the way. I'll be posting mine someday soon...





Derek
DeezGst on aol's IM
http://www.fastasknutz.com
http://www.thebandfleenor.com/car site/index.html

Hey, speedracer...how often do you boost 9psi? Is that your only setting?




chris
blitzdsm1@aol.com

Good numbers - impressive for the listed boost level. Now on to a few things I have read here.

Yes, the T3/T4 is BIG. Much bigger than a S16G or a S20G for that matter. It has a higher horsepower 'potential' than a S20G. I say potential as I have yet to hear of anyone putting down more than mid 200's at the wheels where I know of a S20G laying down near 400fwhp on a 420A.

BB DOES NOT improve spoolup as much as people think. helps, yes, but only by 200-300rpm AT MOST. perhaps in keeping the turbo spooled as well in between shifts if you do not shift quick enough.

Now the larger turbo is truly only effective at high hp levels and more top end. That is definitely good power at that boost level, but I can just run more boost to make up for it can't I ;) The point is trying to compare the two different cars is pointless. Where the difference with a big ass turbo comes in is when running high boost, normally on race gas.That being said, a good advantage (to a point) is that the exta lag actually helps with traction because the turbo tends to spool up much more progressive than a small turbo that comes on all at once. The turbo will work well in its current application, but no better than my 'small' turbo at that power level.


Also, what is also being missed is that the 275hp range is what is considered a safe hp level on stock internals regardless of boost level. If you still have stock internals I would look into an MSD to help out plus a S-AFC and injectors.

Cheers

MuRiX
97 Eclipse GS HRC Stage IV+
Sitting and collecting dust most of the time..
A.D.P.
http://www.murix.com

9psi is my only setting since i'm using just a standard mbc. And it's been set there about 4 months now. But on a typical day I might hit 1-2 psi thats it. Just cause i putt it around town. I did hit over 15psi one day. Scared the Sh%t out of my I just though my pistons would come flying out the hood. But it was for only a sec, then i pulled over and readjusted the mbc (i had a boost leak and in the proccess of trying different things i turned up the mbc and when i found the leak and fixed i forgot to turn it back down)
I've got some 42lb injectors comming and then I'll get the afc and msd, and try out 12 psi at the track, but probably just run 10 daily

Star Stage II (BB)
HKS Type-1 BOV
HKS T-Timer
Turbo XS MBC
Apexi-N1 Catback
Test pipe
Autometer Boost Gauge
Autometer A/F Gauge
Autometer Monster tack
Altezza style lights
Full body graphics
Brembo d/s rotors

Sitting in my house!!
CFDF Clutch



"Thats not an FMIC, it's um... my alum radiator"
http://www.ichibanracing.com