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105130, GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by chong, Aug-06-03 09:07 PM
I have a question for you guys. I have a friend who has a GS-T engine, transmission, and computer for $800. The engine itself has 1200 miles on it. Right now I have a 97 RS with 96k miles on it. If I do the swap, it will be next summer so I can save up for a crotch rocket while the car is being worked on. I know that the website recommends just buying a GS-T but I like to stand out and I know of no one who has done the swap where I live. I live in upper East Tennessee and the most decked out car in town would be a Honda Civic hatchback with a Sniper bodykit on it. There are two Eclipse's around that are fixed up. Right now I have the fastest one. I want it to be faster! I owe $5700 on the car. If I got a GS-T, I planned on selling it and taking out a loan for one. I want a GS-T Spyder so bad but insurance and payments are stopping me. Plus if I do the swap, I will have time to get all the little things for the swap, plus upgraded turbo and front mount intercooler. What would you guys recommend? I would really like to hear from people who have done the swap.
105131, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by run4cvr, Aug-06-03 09:15 PM
Read this.

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=23&topic_id=24&mesg_id=24&page=
105132, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by YourInMyMirror95GS, Aug-06-03 09:23 PM
owned. do a search first there noobie
105133, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by Nackers, Aug-06-03 09:26 PM
BWAHAHAHA!!! PWN3D!!! Hey yourinmybutt. 987. Keep up the whoring:thumbsup.
105134, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by 96eclipse2nr, Aug-07-03 04:42 AM
uh oh, i hope dino dosent read this :nono
105135, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by etx, Aug-07-03 04:45 AM
dude. you have a 420a. why in the hell you you want to put in an outdated all around shitty motor? If I was going to put a different motor in my car it would be the 2.4l turbo motor from the srt-4. It would be even more of a pain in the ass, but actually worth it. The 420a has just as much if not more potential then the 4g63 IMO.


Here is what you do. I saw this video where a guy took an old ass beater mitsu pickup and put the turbo 4g63 in it. Its a simple swap because THAT 20 YEAR OLD TRUCK HAS THE SAME FUCKING MOTOR. so having a turbo little pickup truck would be fun and it would be a sleeper for sure. If you want your car to be fast just turbo the 420a, you wont regret it.
105136, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by DR1665, Aug-07-03 04:59 AM
Hey Dino!

You should put a revolving banner at the top of the forums with all the questions we've seen a hundred times going across it. When a user clicks it, it takes them to the search or TWSB (things we've seen before). It might save you some bandwidth over time. :P

105137, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by widebodied, Aug-07-03 07:26 AM
dude, dont listen to these assholes!

the 4g63 bolts right up... happy swappin! :rolleyes.

DWAYNE H


www.gottude.com
Red/Black/Silver 01 GSXR 750
Lots of Apexi components...
105138, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by chrysler kid, Aug-07-03 07:58 AM
>dude. you have a 420a. why in the hell you you want to put in
>an outdated all around shitty motor? If I was going to put a
>different motor in my car it would be the 2.4l turbo motor
>from the srt-4. It would be even more of a pain in the ass,
>but actually worth it. The 420a has just as much if not more
>potential then the 4g63 IMO.
>
>
wow man you just dissed my engine so i will diss the 420A !!!!!!!!

if you think that all you have to do to make a 420a fast is to buy a stage 2 kit from hahn, well my friend you are wrong. a rebuild is ESSENTIAL if your gonna be out pushing it hard every night. by no means is the 4g63 a shity motor, even the 7 bolt is designed WAYYYY better than a 420a. try changing out a headstud on a 420a will ya?

actually the 420a has more potential cause the 4g63 already has a turbo and intercooler. as far as going all out on a 420a, a stroker kit is the way to go. BUT there are new 2.4 stroker kits out for the 4g63 too. I will say this, there is no way in heel any one can match bryndens 2.6

im not sayin the 420a is a horible motor, chrysler just should have designed it better, done more research on it

Also the 4g63 motor from the new evo does bolt right in smart ass!!!!!!!! :o
105139, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by felix4787, Aug-07-03 02:14 PM
>Also the 4g63 motor from the new evo does bolt right in smart
>ass!!!!!!!! :o

Umm no it doesnt.
105140, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by chrysler kid, Aug-08-03 12:21 PM
>>Also the 4g63 motor from the new evo does bolt right in
>smart
>>ass!!!!!!!! :o
>
>Umm no it doesnt.
>

umm yes it does
105141, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by felix4787, Aug-09-03 02:05 PM
>umm yes it does

No it doesnt, the Evo 1-3 engines will bolt right in, but the 4-8 engines have the timing gears and timing belt on the opposite side of the car.
105142, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by felix4787, Aug-09-03 02:05 PM
>umm yes it does

No it doesnt, the Evo 1-3 engines will bolt right in, but the 4-8 engines have the timing gears and timing belt on the opposite side of the car.
105143, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by chrysler kid, Aug-09-03 06:55 PM
>>umm yes it does
>
>No it doesnt, the Evo 1-3 engines will bolt right in, but the
>4-8 engines have the timing gears and timing belt on the
>opposite side of the car.
>

no you have it backwards. find a pic of an evo 8 engine bay
105144, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by Nackers, Aug-09-03 07:21 PM
Woah, when did you get a new sig pic C.K?
105145, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by widebodied, Aug-07-03 06:39 PM
>Also the 4g63 motor from the new evo does bolt right in smart
>ass!!!!!!!! :o

i really hope that was a joke:wary ?

DWAYNE H


www.gottude.com
Red/Black/Silver 01 GSXR 750
Lots of Apexi components...
105146, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by Nackers, Aug-07-03 09:18 PM
LMAO! You guys are funny. BTW, I second the idea of the revolving banner thing. Thats a good idea imo.
105147, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by BoostedGS, Aug-08-03 04:17 AM
>I saw this video where a guy took an old
>ass beater mitsu pickup and put the turbo 4g63 in it. Its a
>simple swap because THAT 20 YEAR OLD TRUCK HAS THE SAME
>FUCKING MOTOR. so having a turbo little pickup truck would be
>fun and it would be a sleeper for sure.

That would probably be Eric Plebani. He is known for dropping the 4g63 into many different cars, including that Mighty Max pick-up truck, and even a Porsche. Pretty cool stuff. He's also #57 on the "Fastest DSM Drag Times Page" with an 11.98 in his 90 Talon AWD.

There's a little clip about Eric and his 4g63 powered pick-up truck in the special features on one of the Tecademic's DVD's.
105148, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by The1Bill, Aug-08-03 04:39 AM
Actually, the newer Evo engines will bolt in. They won't, however, plug in. As for the 4G63, there are a lot of great things about that motor. It's virtues include a baffled oil pan, strong internals, and a mostly closed deck. The 420a, however, has the advantage of a bedplate design and fewer parts. The reduced parts count improves the servicability of the motor. As for the head stud comment, there is never really a need to replaqce a head stud, and the nut can be reached without pulling a cam. Just hafta go through the hassle once to remove the head bolts and put ARP head studs in instead.
-=B-=
105149, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by DR1665, Aug-08-03 04:50 AM
Chrysler kid must be on the rag this week. :P
105150, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by chrysler kid, Aug-08-03 12:20 PM
>Chrysler kid must be on the rag this week. :P

STFU N00BS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i did a lot of searching lol

. honestly guys the new evo engine is a bolt in, but that doent mean its a good swap. Yall need to listen to bill. he is jesus to the 420a :)
105151, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by DR1665, Aug-08-03 12:44 PM

>STFU N00BS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i did a lot
>of searching lol


Haha! You know, this no0b is only about a month no0ber than joo, so why don't you STFU? :P

(You know I'm playin witcha, right?)
105152, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by chrysler kid, Aug-08-03 12:51 PM
>
>>STFU N00BS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i did a
>lot
>>of searching lol
>
>
>Haha! You know, this no0b is only about a month no0ber than
>joo, so why don't you STFU? :P
>
>(You know I'm playin witcha, right?)

try a month and a year lol! :P
105153, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by Doug96GS, Aug-09-03 03:44 PM
what a bunch of noobs
105154, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by fauchpj, Aug-09-03 06:34 PM
>what a bunch of noobs


werd
105155, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by invaznGST, Aug-10-03 02:27 AM
anyways..enough of the gay arguing. back on topic. you can't swap a 4g63 turbo motor into a 420a engine bay very easily.. yes it is possible but realisticly it's a pain in the ass. You'd be better off saving all that money for the swap and putting a turbo kit on your RS. If you aren't comfortable with doing that then just sell your RS and buy a GST/GSX. Hope this answers your question.
105156, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by felix4787, Aug-12-03 02:01 PM
"
^^ Evo 8.

""
^^ DSM 4G63


105157, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by invaznGST, Aug-12-03 02:11 PM
:x
105158, RE: GS-T swap or buy one?
Posted by NightEclipseRS, Dec-07-03 08:34 PM
go here I did the swap, its easy electrical is hardest part http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=54176&mode=full