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104959, DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Uberingram, May-16-04 08:02 PM
http://www.dynotune.org/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=96

Advertised on SRTForums awhile ago. All included kit. Seems pretty cool.




Originally posted by DynoTune.com
Product Highlights
* Works with ANY standalone engine management system.
* Self Calibration!.
* Accurate Air/Fuel Ratio <0.1
* Wideband LINEAR Analog Output
* Narrowband Analog Output
* 32 MHz Advanced DSP Technology
* Built in Resettable Fuse (No external fuse needed)

What's included in the kit?:
1. Wideband Oxygen Sensor Controller unit.
2. Wideband oxygen sensor.
3. 8 ft plug and play wire harness for connection between the Controller and the oxygen sensor.
4. 4 ft wires brought out from the Controller for connections to power/output signals.
5. Round 2-1/16" Billet Aluminum display.
5. Detailed installation instructions.


430 bones. No mention of logging capabilities or ability to hook it up to a logger but for an all enclusive kit it's a decent solution.
104960, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by XtremeRS, May-17-04 03:26 AM
Originally posted by Uberingram
http://www.dynotune.org/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=96 Advertised on SRTForums awhile ago. All included kit. Seems pretty cool.
Originally posted by DynoTune.com Product Highlights * Works with ANY standalone engine management system. * Self Calibration!. * Accurate Air/Fuel Ratio <0.1 * Wideband LINEAR Analog Output * Narrowband Analog Output * 32 MHz Advanced DSP Technology * Built in Resettable Fuse (No external fuse needed) What's included in the kit?: 1. Wideband Oxygen Sensor Controller unit. 2. Wideband oxygen sensor. 3. 8 ft plug and play wire harness for connection between the Controller and the oxygen sensor. 4. 4 ft wires brought out from the Controller for connections to power/output signals. 5. Round 2-1/16" Billet Aluminum display. 5. Detailed installation instructions.
430 bones. No mention of logging capabilities or ability to hook it up to a logger but for an all enclusive kit it's a decent solution.



Looks pretty nice..Although I just purchased the AEM UEGO gauge type wideband kit for my car, for about the same price..pretty much the same thing though..Having an incar wideband full time is going to be awsome for tuning..
104961, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Saltine, May-17-04 11:49 AM
This is a really attractive buy for me but the lack of logging capabilities worries me. Is it THAT important? I've searched and I'm finding that alot of wideband setups that can log are runnning quite a bit higher in price. I'm assuming that's the sacrifice I'll have to make. :(
104962, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by DR1665, May-17-04 12:12 PM
I may have to go with this instead of the regular DynoTune wideband I had been planning on getting...

104963, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Saltine, May-17-04 12:51 PM
Originally posted by DR1665
I may have to go with this instead of the regular DynoTune wideband I had been planning on getting...


Regular? That's the only one I'm seeing on their website. Do you have the direct URL for the one you're talking about? Uberingram, do you know these people? Do they have logging wideband controllers?
104964, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Uberingram, May-17-04 02:19 PM
Not that I saw. I think our resident loony, Mr. Driggs, has finally lost it. :nuts
104965, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by QC DSM ESiT, May-23-04 06:58 PM
Originally posted by XtremeRS
Looks pretty nice..Although I just purchased the AEM UEGO gauge type wideband kit for my car, for about the same price..pretty much the same thing though..Having an incar wideband full time is going to be awsome for tuning..


Hey XtremeRS do you have yours installed yet? Give me an E-mail or PM. Or give me an IM on AIM, QC DMS ESiT. E-mail = QCDSMESiT@mchsi.com
104966, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by XtremeRS, May-23-04 07:52 PM
Originally posted by QC DSM ESiT
Originally posted by XtremeRS Looks pretty nice..Although I just purchased the AEM UEGO gauge type wideband kit for my car, for about the same price..pretty much the same thing though..Having an incar wideband full time is going to be awsome for tuning..
Hey XtremeRS do you have yours installed yet? Give me an E-mail or PM. Or give me an IM on AIM, QC DMS ESiT. E-mail = QCDSMESiT@mchsi.com


Yes, I have the AEM gauge installed, and it works perfectly..One of the BEST tuning tools ever!
104967, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Dirty, May-24-04 01:34 PM
Originally posted by XtremeRS
Originally posted by QC DSM ESiT
Originally posted by XtremeRS Looks pretty nice..Although I just purchased the AEM UEGO gauge type wideband kit for my car, for about the same price..pretty much the same thing though..Having an incar wideband full time is going to be awsome for tuning..
Hey XtremeRS do you have yours installed yet? Give me an E-mail or PM. Or give me an IM on AIM, QC DMS ESiT. E-mail = QCDSMESiT@mchsi.com
Yes, I have the AEM gauge installed, and it works perfectly..One of the BEST tuning tools ever!


More info on that please! :whoa
104968, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Uberingram, May-24-04 01:49 PM
Originally posted by Dirty
More info on that please! :whoa


http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=67590&mesg_id=67590&listing_type=search

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=60772&mesg_id=60772&listing_type=search

Yay for search.
104969, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Dirty, May-24-04 01:52 PM
I was thinking more of a detailed review.........

I would like one but need to hear the words from some folks that have one.
104970, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by XtremeRS, May-24-04 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Dirty
I was thinking more of a detailed review......... I would like one but need to hear the words from some folks that have one.


Yeah, Thura has a write up on it on the main page. I'll add too, that the ONLY downfall to the AEM gauge type wideband, is you can't really log with it..sort of..The gauge does have a wire that you can hook up to a RS232 serial cable(you have to wire it to the cable), and use Hyperterminal on your PC to log. But, you can only log the A/F, nothing else, wich really, isn't too helpful. I guess if anything, you can see if you ran lean during a pull, but exactly when, you wouldn't really know(you could guess i suppose, by looking from beginning to end of the log). Hey, somethig is better than nothing though..I wasnt too concerned with logging, but i rather wanted it for quick reference, and on the fly tuning with the 034 8 injector setup. IMO, a dyno is best used for rigorous tuning, where you can log A/F, timing, HP and torque, ect..But overall, this gauge is very accurate, and seems to work very well for its intended purpose...and looks mighty cool in the gauge bezel :)
104971, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by RxR_Eclipse, May-26-04 04:12 AM
God that is the ugliest gauge I have ever seen. 430 seems a bit high. I have seen them on www.froogle.com for around 350. Check out these guys. When I get some xtra $$ I might invest in one.

http://www.plxdevices.com/M-Series_productinfo.htm
104972, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by brynden29, May-26-04 05:56 AM
I have the FJO wideband. I love it. It is great for in car tuning. Not sure about the logging capabilities, I haven't looked into it.

http://www.fjoracing.com/
104973, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Uberingram, May-26-04 11:53 AM
If you actually read the thread I posted you'd see it's not really that price. ;)
104974, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by JustOne, May-26-04 01:17 PM
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm

279 w/o a dash mount display (laptop view only)
399 w/ a dash mount display

It logs not only AFR but Lambda, EGT, Boost, RPM, TPS as well. (all it needs is a timing adv. log and it would be perfect)

Your two wire EGT probe hooks right up to it so you dont have to buy the one on the site. The software is simple to use and easy to read. I like it because you can cross ref. everything right there on one easy to see screen. I just wish I had one years ago because it would have saved me money on all my pos Autometer gauges.

Later
Brian

104975, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by djtrickee, May-26-04 03:06 PM
Originally posted by JustOne
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm 279 w/o a dash mount display (laptop view only) 399 w/ a dash mount display It logs not only AFR but Lambda, EGT, Boost, RPM, TPS as well. (all it needs is a timing adv. log and it would be perfect) Your two wire EGT probe hooks right up to it so you dont have to buy the one on the site. The software is simple to use and easy to read. I like it because you can cross ref. everything right there on one easy to see screen. I just wish I had one years ago because it would have saved me money on all my pos Autometer gauges. Later Brian


Ohhh thats my favorite so far. It will go nicely with my car pc and datalogging software. I like. I must have. Thanks for the link. We should hook up sometime here in Denver.
-Chris b.
104976, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Steve, May-26-04 04:01 PM
Originally posted by djtrickee
Originally posted by JustOne http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm 279 w/o a dash mount display (laptop view only) 399 w/ a dash mount display It logs not only AFR but Lambda, EGT, Boost, RPM, TPS as well. (all it needs is a timing adv. log and it would be perfect) Your two wire EGT probe hooks right up to it so you dont have to buy the one on the site. The software is simple to use and easy to read. I like it because you can cross ref. everything right there on one easy to see screen. I just wish I had one years ago because it would have saved me money on all my pos Autometer gauges. Later Brian
Ohhh thats my favorite so far. It will go nicely with my car pc and datalogging software. I like. I must have. Thanks for the link. We should hook up sometime here in Denver. -Chris b.


yeah that caught my attention quite a bit to man pts to you.
104977, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by JustOne, May-26-04 05:46 PM
I think it is a great unit for the price. I also wouldn't dream of buying a wideband unit it if couldn't log.

Chris, we should get together sometime forsure. I will be out of shool on the 16th of June and I am planing on "finishing" my car as to move on to the next. So i will be working on it almost daily.
104978, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by djtrickee, May-26-04 05:58 PM
Yea. that my next purchase after reading about it. I was looking into those australion ones that you have to assemble yourself, but they work out to about the same price.

Lets do hook up. But I can't drive your car, it will bastardize me and make me spend lots of money, lol... hehe

maybe you can help me diagnose this problem...
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=71667&mesg_id=71667&page=#71669

hit me up on pm or aim...

-chris b.
104979, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Pitchblack98, May-26-04 05:59 PM
yeah we should all 3 get together.... and back on subject thats a sweet deal on that wideband with all the other capabilities... (sp?)
104980, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by RxR_Eclipse, May-27-04 04:23 AM
If you guys had gone to the site I posted you would have seen the wide band there REPLACES your current 02. If you have a pocket logger or somthing like that you could now see alot of those things, along with a now wideband setup.

I just read on that zetroblablabla one. That is a great one. I would almost get it over all others if I had an laptop.
104981, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Chamuko, May-27-04 05:02 AM
hehe been looking at that one for months now. Think a GB cuold be started on that?
Also , I would not want to replace my stock one with this one. Its not that hard to unscrew when not in use, and it would somewhat prolong the life span of the wideband sensor.
104982, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by DR1665, May-27-04 07:00 AM
Okay, I was seriously thinking about getting the dynotune kit Uber originally posted, but I just noticed that Zeitronix model can also display boost, EGT and Lamda. Someone elighten me as to just what Lamda is will ya?

This unit could take care of all my monitoring needs and then some! I was planning on spending around $160 for the DynoTune EGT and then picking up the wideband separately. Getting this unit would replace them both, allow for a completely stealth install (no pod = no warning imo), and save me at least $100.

Added plus if you're turbo! I'm thinking this could be your main info center for tuning. A/F, EGT and Boost in one place? Those are the big three if I'm not mistaken. Sure, you could throw on a pillar pod (or sneaky guage bezel pods) for your fuel pressure and oil pressure guages, but the big three relating to things going kaBOOM are all right there with that thing. Me likey. Me likey a lot!

Good find gentlemen!
104983, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by UDLUZE, May-27-04 07:15 AM
How about these wideband o2 kits. They are available with data logging software.

http://plxdevices.com/products_M-Series-Controllers.htm
104984, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by djtrickee, May-27-04 09:12 AM
Originally posted by UDLUZE
How about these wideband o2 kits. They are available with data logging software. http://plxdevices.com/products_M-Series-Controllers.htm


Ummm you mean the same ones that were posted like 6 posts above this one?
104985, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by tim97rs, May-27-04 09:33 AM
dont forget about the LM-1 from innovate motorsports, they have a nice set-up.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/
104986, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by pn0ymahal, May-27-04 12:50 PM
Matt, where did you buy your Uego from? also how much was it? the only place and only price i got is from RRE for $425 for the sensor and gauge...
Michael
99gs HRC Stage 4000+ 8-Injector Setup
2004 Honda Accord V6 (240 hp)
Car info & pictures at http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/520269
104987, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Initial DSM, May-27-04 01:36 PM
Originally posted by DR1665
I just noticed that Zeitronix model can also display boost, EGT and Lamda. Someone elighten me as to just what Lamda is will ya?


Lamda = Digital air/fuel reading sirs. :)


stupid questiom, but if one has a stand alone, wouldnt it be able to log these things via labtop anyway, not making these widebands even necessary? i think i know the answer but just checking.
104988, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Uberingram, May-27-04 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Initial DSM
Originally posted by DR1665 I just noticed that Zeitronix model can also display boost, EGT and Lamda. Someone elighten me as to just what Lamda is will ya?
Lamda = Digital air/fuel reading sirs. :) stupid questiom, but if one has a stand alone, wouldnt it be able to log these things via labtop anyway, not making these widebands even necessary? i think i know the answer but just checking.


For the most part but you still need a sensor that reads in that range and an interface to it of some kind.
104989, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Initial DSM, May-27-04 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Uberingram
Originally posted by Initial DSM
Originally posted by DR1665 I just noticed that Zeitronix model can also display boost, EGT and Lamda. Someone elighten me as to just what Lamda is will ya?
Lamda = Digital air/fuel reading sirs. :) stupid questiom, but if one has a stand alone, wouldnt it be able to log these things via labtop anyway, not making these widebands even necessary? i think i know the answer but just checking.
For the most part but you still need a sensor that reads in that range and an interface to it of some kind.


yeah i just called one of those companies to verify.
The wideband would help you log your data, which in conjunction with a labtop and your stand alone, you can basically self tune the car yourself, minus obviuosly not being able to dyno run your car for hp stats.

It looks like a toss up between the PLX or the LM-1, which both come up to around the same price total.
$500 + $35 (wideband gauge convertor)+ $40 (autometer air/fuel meter) for the PLX M500.

$350 + $100(rpm convertor)+ $60 (Analog display) for the LM-1)

I'll look into that zetroblahblah more later.
*EDIT. This is a pretty cool and easy to read display though:


also LM-1 is coming out with a 'auxbox' in a month , which comes with all sensors built in - i'll try to find out more about that later.
104990, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by DR1665, May-28-04 05:27 AM
Okay fellas. So considering this display:

*Lambda is the voltage of the wideband sensor, such as would be displayed on a digital A/F guage (obvioulsy range is dependant on narrow band or wideband, but the same type of numbers)
*AFR is the actuall A/F ratio. So if stoich is 13.6 (I'm guessing here), you could get a quick glance reading of your ratio with this thing and not have to worry too much about Lambda.

Is this right? I'm still liking this Zeitronix box the best at this point. :thumbsup
104991, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by siueclipse, May-29-04 11:47 AM
sorry but the tech edge unit is much better than all these combined.

can any of these above log things that i do?

boost, egt, rpm, air/fuel, fuel pressure, oil pressure, intake air temp, ambient temp?

anything?

104992, RE: DynoTune Wideband kit
Posted by Chamuko, May-29-04 08:46 PM
stoich is 14.7(air):1(fuel)