Go back to previous topic
Forum nameTurbo/Nitrous Tech
Topic subjectI own '99 NT and '92 TSi. Both complete...
Topic URLhttps://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=i8&topic_id=102611
102611, I own '99 NT and '92 TSi. Both complete...
Posted by simpleton23, Jan-25-08 08:47 PM
...and I would love to merge the two.

Please help me find a link to where I may find some reliable, intelligent documentation of this swap.

Both cars are complete, and both run. This should be a matter of gutting the 2gNT's drivetrain and wiring, then bringing in as much TSi drivetrain and wiring.

The big question: removing the NT subframe/engine cradle, welding in a 2G turbo's subframe/cradle + mounts and wiring harness...do I need to use 2G turbo guages, and will I still have hair by the time this is all complete?

misterhalfevil@gmail.com

profile essentialDSM @ dsmtuners

Thanks to anyone in advance!
102612, RE: I own '99 NT and '92 TSi. Both complete...
Posted by DarkOne, Jan-25-08 09:25 PM
]Originally written by me, and then thought about it
the reliable, intelligent documentation of this swap boils down to not wasting your time. If you really want to do it, cut the side motor mounts out of the 4g6 car and weld them into the unibody of the 420a car, then swap the entire wiring harness from the donor to the project car. Once you're done rewiring the entire engine bay, reroute all the various hoses and hardlines so that you've got power steering, maybe air conditioning, hell, maybe even evaporative emissions if you have that kind of time blah blah blah


I considered it for too long, there are to many differences between the platforms to really try to make a post just to tell you how to do it. The easy answer is "NO." and the next best answer if you're determined to do it is "Figure it out yourself."

They're the same body, not the same car.
102618, RE: I own '99 NT and '92 TSi. Both complete...
Posted by simpleton23, Jan-26-08 03:55 PM
Originally posted by DarkOne
]Originally written by me, and then thought about it the reliable, intelligent documentation of this swap boils down to not wasting your time. If you really want to do it, cut the side motor mounts out of the 4g6 car and weld them into the unibody of the 420a car, then swap the entire wiring harness from the donor to the project car. Once you're done rewiring the entire engine bay, reroute all the various hoses and hardlines so that you've got power steering, maybe air conditioning, hell, maybe even evaporative emissions if you have that kind of time blah blah blah
I considered it for too long, there are to many differences between the platforms to really try to make a post just to tell you how to do it. The easy answer is "NO." and the next best answer if you're determined to do it is "Figure it out yourself." They're the same body, not the same car.


I never stopped to consider the hardlines and hoses, power steering, et cetera. Feeling a little sheepish - you are right, that would be ridiculous.

I suppose my real issue is that I want to have my cake and eat it too; the '92 TSi is quick, but very much the beater on the outside. I have about $6,000 wrapped up in the Talon, and it's all in the engine.

The '99 GS beautiful, has leather, and a concert quality stereo system. People know me because of this car. It is just so achingly beyond slow. I know that the 420A has awesome power potential, but doing another complete engine build-up is not something I can practically consider. Can the 420A be built to make the 400+ horsepower my TSi setup has, without a budget that would make NASA cry? What about a simple 200 to 230 HP setup?

I guess I just need to lurk more, and accept that I have to learn another engine, or sell the '99 NT for a GST. I must grudgingly admit that I know nothing about producing NA power.

Seriously, thank you both for your input. I love my '99. I don't want to get rid of it. How can I make the most of it?
102613, RE: I own '99 NT and '92 TSi. Both complete...
Posted by 95eclipse420A, Jan-26-08 04:30 AM
Please do not destroy a perfectly good 2gnt. For the sake of the community. If you do intend to do this, try to find a shell and go from there.
102621, RE: I own '99 NT and '92 TSi. Both complete...
Posted by 2GeclipseRS, Jan-26-08 08:14 PM
Keep the NT as a dd.

You want fast, find a car that came factory with a 4g63.

www.dsmtrader.com

4g63t bst section of this forum

www.autotrader.com

www.modifiedcartrader.com

www.Carolinadsm.com

www.ebay.com

Craigslist.

One of those should find you a 2g with a blown motor or something like that with a decent body for next to nothing.
102625, RE: I own '99 NT and '92 TSi. Both complete...
Posted by simpleton23, Jan-27-08 04:21 AM
Thank you, I have a few minutes to check around before work...
102641, RE: I own '99 NT and '92 TSi. Both complete...
Posted by goalie40, Jan-28-08 09:57 AM
700 bucks! This is what you need to look for. Body/interior was great, motor bad. I wanted to drop a 4g63 in my RS too. Before I was smart about these cars. I even had a block ready to be built.