I'm gonna have to agree there. I really never looked at it that way but I totally agree. I think the Eclipse was deffintley cheated and its bullshit. We've grown old :( It would be nice if when you told someone you had an Eclipse they could be like "Damn.. those things are mean as hell :thumbsup" ...but no, they'll say, " Oh but the Evo is really sick man.. " And then you tell them the Evo runs the same engine as the Eclipse and there like "yea ok"... Stupid Fucks :rolleyes