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80573, Everyone Who Has HIDs Come Here
Posted by EclipseTenzoR, Jan-21-05 08:20 AM
I recently started to make relay harnesses for HIDs the main purpose of this relay is to add extra power to your HIDs rather than using your cars stock wiring harness, which you could potentially blow out over time along with your ballast due to insufficient energy being sent to your Ballast. One of the main reasons to get one of these is to take precautionary measure in your big investment. If you turn on your HIDs and it sometimes takes one side to warm up longer than the other side or one side will be a blueish color where the other is more green, this is a sign of needing a harness to supply more power to the ballast. So if you have HIDs I highly suggest looking into purchasing one. I am making these for $50 Shipped and you can see a picture posted below. I have seen similar harnesses sold for about the same price and more of lesser quality that does not take the extra step in protecting the relay and making decent connections with heavy gauge wire. I know this should probably be in the for sale section or a group buy section but I need to gauge the interest of those who have HIDs first. But if I can get more than 10 orders I will sell them for $40 Shipped.

80590, RE: Everyone Who Has HIDs Come Here
Posted by Doug96GS, Jan-19-05 03:49 PM
My McCullough 5300K kit came with a free harness, but thanks! :-)

You're definetely right though. Everyone with a kit should have a harness other than the stock one.
80601, RE: Everyone Who Has HIDs Come Here
Posted by EclipseTenzoR, Jan-20-05 02:59 AM
McCullough does not make the harness I am talking about. They make an Igniter that starts the HIDs. This is the alternative to mounting it inside the balast like Philips and Hella does. You still put strain on your ballast by using the stock wiring harness from your car becuase it does not support enough power during the warm-up period. I have a chart that shows the power that is needed during warm-up and the amount of power stock wiring gives out. This is a precautionary step to protect the balasts. So for those who have aftermarket kits, these benefit you greatly. And just to let you know, the cost in supplies is alot and I make very little money off this $10-$15 if that after its packaged and shipped, I am just trying to provide a service because this is something everyone should have as a safe guard to protecting your HIDs

Read This For More Info

http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/headlamp-harness.html
80619, RE: Everyone Who Has HIDs Come Here
Posted by azdave, Jan-20-05 04:00 PM
I'm not trying to kill your product here but 2G Eclipses come from the factory with such a relay built into the headlight system already.

I checked into this when I installed my McCulloch HIDs. The factory service manual schematic indicates the headlight relay as A-14X and it's under the hood on the right side of the car. This relay's purpose is to take the load off the low beam headlight switching circuit and connections inside the car and in the column switches.

The harness and relay you are offering DO add an extra measure of insurance that the HIDs are getting sufficient power during start-up of the lamps but after almost two years of HID use I have found no need for the extra relay or wiring.

As a note: The headlamp system descibed in the link you provide is not the way our headlights are wired. If it were, I would endorse the added relay without a doubt.

Also note: The load of the high-beams activating DOES go into the column dimmer/passing switch but don't be confused, this load has no relation to the low-beam (HID) system power.

Food for thought to those with HIDs.
If you are driving during the day with the HIDs off and go to use your passing lights to flash someone ahead of you, do you realise you are firing the HID ballast everytime you pull the stick to blink the high beams? Yes, the low beams power up as well as the high beams when you flash your passing lights. That's really hard on the ballast to fire HIDs multiple times like that. Yes, newer ballasts have protection circuits to help prevent multiple firings from damaging the ballast but it’s best to avoid that situation altogether.

There are three solutions:

1. Never flash your passing lights more than once every 45 seconds IF your headlights are off (Not too practical huh?).


2. Wire your car for daytime running lights.

My car is wired so that my HIDs are on anytime the ignition is in the run position (daytime running lights). When I use the passing lights I'm only turning on the high-beams, since the HIDs are already turned on, and that way the HIDs are not stressed (I have a manual bypass switch if for some reason I don’t want daytime running lights to be active).


3. Snip a wire in the harness to prevent the low beams from activating with passing lights.

If you want to avoid the HIDs turning on and off while flashing your passing lights you can cut the red wire at terminal #2 on connector B-10 or terminal #32 on connector B-07. This will interupt the low beam circuit from finding a ground path when you use the passing lights. It will not affect any other function of the lighting circuit.





80623, RE: Everyone Who Has HIDs Come Here
Posted by EclipseTenzoR, Jan-20-05 04:52 PM
Thinks azdave for clearing this up for me, I thought that it would be an added precaution to set somthing like this up unknown to the fact that our harnesses are reiable. I like how you have that day time running lights, your knowledge overwhelms me with the stuff that you have done to you car, it has such subtle upgrades that you would only think to see on high end vehicles. Can you put together some info of the mods you have done? I would be really curious to read up on it. I'd like to do the remote trunk popper but don't know how to go about it. What do you do for a living?
80627, RE: Everyone Who Has HIDs Come Here
Posted by MCubed45, Jan-20-05 07:20 PM
Originally posted by EclipseTenzoR
Thinks azdave for clearing this up for me, I thought that it would be an added precaution to set somthing like this up unknown to the fact that our harnesses are reiable. I like how you have that day time running lights, your knowledge overwhelms me with the stuff that you have done to you car, it has such subtle upgrades that you would only think to see on high end vehicles. Can you put together some info of the mods you have done? I would be really curious to read up on it. I'd like to do the remote trunk popper but don't know how to go about it. What do you do for a living?


remote trunk popper is fairly eays it's just kinda a PITA finding the right angle and location to mount the solenoid. plus you kinda hafta figure out what does what on the latching mechanism. there's like one particular lever that is ideal for attaching the solenoid to... that and running wires is always a bitch. well worth it though.

i'd highly recommend it - it's one of those incredibly useful mods you never really think about unless you don't have it :P

(much like when i didn't have power locks or windows....) :wary
80640, RE: Everyone Who Has HIDs Come Here
Posted by azdave, Jan-21-05 07:57 AM
Thanks for the comments on my write-ups. I'll try to get a write-up done for you on the hatch release in the near future.

It will not be difficult for you to add an electric trunk pop as I've found a simple way to attach to the mechanism lever. I didn't even have to drill any holes. You will need to run some extra wires of course for the relay etc. I'll try to get some pics soon and do a write up on the wiring. I'm also searching for parts for an auto-opening rear hatch.

In this photo from my Trunk Pop Tech Tip
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=7&topic_id=69242&mesg_id=69242&listing_type=search
you can see the trunk release solenoid cable entering from the lower left corner of the photo.
80643, RE: Everyone Who Has HIDs Come Here
Posted by SonicYan, Jan-21-05 08:20 AM
Woah, nice info there guys! I might get HIDs, somewhere in the future. I recommend that someone sticky this, cuz it might come in handy.
80717, RE: Everyone Who Has HIDs Come Here
Posted by Doug96GS, Jan-22-05 06:47 PM
Originally posted by EclipseTenzoR
McCullough does not make the harness I am talking about. They make an Igniter that starts the HIDs. This is the alternative to mounting it inside the balast like Philips and Hella does. You still put strain on your ballast by using the stock wiring harness from your car becuase it does not support enough power during the warm-up period. I have a chart that shows the power that is needed during warm-up and the amount of power stock wiring gives out. This is a precautionary step to protect the balasts. So for those who have aftermarket kits, these benefit you greatly. And just to let you know, the cost in supplies is alot and I make very little money off this $10-$15 if that after its packaged and shipped, I am just trying to provide a service because this is something everyone should have as a safe guard to protecting your HIDs Read This For More Info http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/headlamp-harness.html


HIDplace.com included a harness for me with the kit.