I am thinking about shaving my door handles and have a couple questions about it. I don't have electric door locks but I think that would be okay because even if the door is unlocked, people can't open it beacuse there is no handle, correct? Also if my battery died how would i get the door open? How much does it cost to shave the handles? How much does it cost to buy/install the door popper kit? Thanks

Ian
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I wouldn't mind knowing what it means to shave door handles and keyholes...can anyone fill me in on the procedure? Or a least what it means to shave it? I know it goes away, but how?
thanks

Jeff

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For door handles, they would remove the door handle and then weld a piece of metal over the hole, then they would grind down the weld and use fiberglass and body filler to make it look good and smooth. They weld for bigs holes(door handles, atenna holes) and use fiberglass and body filler for small holes(keyholes, other small holes).

Ian
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to get it done right, they should tac weld the hole which will run about 300-400 per handle plus paint. if they use bondo it may crack under stress (which the doors get alot of)
the door popper kit is about 100 dollars and should be able to install cheap if not free depending on the mechanic/installer. if your battery dies and you dont have battery conections run somewhere on the outside of the car, such as in the fenderwell or under a bumper, you will have to shatter a window to get in and pop the hood, unless you want to risk leaving the hood open all the time.

You said it all Cyan. Most people try to have a backup battery in case. Also, a lot of door poppers don't always seem to work. Sometimes they won't push it out hard enough, but usually it should be ok if its installed right. Also, beware that its highly illegal to shave the door handles, because no one from the outside can get in. Maybe just shave the passenger side? That's what I would do since I use the driver side door handle all the time.

Also, I think you SHOULD lock the door because its probably easier to get in if its unlocked.

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hmm, i was not aware that it was illegal. that may be just a cali thing or illegal where you are, i dont think it is here in GA. i dont see any logic behind making it illegal because people cant get in, thats sort of the point of locking your doors and getting an alarm. why would they punish you for keeping out others? this may be true but i dont think it is here and i laugh at any state that forbids you from protecting yourself and your personal property.
about the popper solenoids, youre right, some people buy a solenoid that is too weak for the weight of your door. you could go balls out and get the 100 pound solenoids and have no problems with power you just might launch the door off the hinges or into another human being with that kind of force.

I heard the main reason they are illegal is due to safety. In case you get in an accident or something and are not able to pull yourself out, they want to make it easy for outsiders to get you out. I know it doesn't make that much sense (since if your door is locked, they can't open it by the handle anyway), but I just heard that its a huge fine in CA.

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IF you shave your door handles you can always crawl through the hatch to open the doors if needed. No need to go brakin up windows.


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thats assuming you have fold down rear seats, dont have a speaker box filling the entire hatch and oh yeah, didnt shave the rear keyhole. too bad i did both.
can you fold down the rear seats from inside the hatch? i assume so

I thought all DSMs had fold down rear seats the only difference is wether it's split or not. And the box will support what little weight you can put on it as you crawl forward. I would just say make yourself a remote hood release and mount it somewhere out of sight so you can get a jump.

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My talon hatch key hole is recessed in the plastic lighting assembly. How in the world do you shave that? With the hatch open you can climb over the rear seats even with them up (but all do fold down). You'd have to have a wall of woofers going up to the roof to prevent me from crawling over. Most false floor enclosers are less than 12" above the regular floor.


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you take out the center piece of the taillight, plastic-weld a backing onto it, and fill the hole with bondo. paint and reinstall. you can actually do it with the piece still on the car but it would be nasty if you ever decided to use the keyhole again

Well a simple solution is that you hide a wire on the car..lets say behind the fender markers....or behind the innerfenders....or behind the intercooler...anywhere out of sight.You know, someplace where you have to get down on the ground and crawl to find it...but then at least you dont have to brake any windows to get in ....then you just attach the wire in the door so if you pull it the door opens..piece of cake..I did that to my hatch when I shaved the holes on mu Merkur.Its a little tricky t get the wire running good and smooth but it can be done..no problemo.

another solution is the best though..a friend of mine has it..
He removed the doorlock and placed it under the doorskirt.The skirt is attacehed by a clip at the rear end of the front door...so if he gets locked out he pulls the skirt out and under/below it is the keyhole..then he can open with his key..this is teh best soulution but its alot of work and needs to be well done to work...but hen no one know you have a keyhole and no one will find it..great stuff!!!!

LAST EDITED ON 27-Dec-00 AT 07:03 PM (PST)

Hey, just as a follow up, I knew it was illegal, but I didn't know that door handle shaving could mean immediate impound. At least here in CA, they can impound your car on the spot. My friend with a Civic has only had shaved door handles for about half a year, but now he really wants to go back to stock door handles (he said its too scary with cops everywhere).

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why not just run some thick wire from the positive and negative battery terminals and run it under the bumper. if the battery dies all you have to do is clamp the jumper cable alligator clamps onto the two wires to jump the car and popl the doors. cant say that hidden wires and custom mounted keyholes is any easier than this.

cyan...
thats true...depends on what you want though...the hidden wire is a extremely cheap solution if you cant afford anything else....nothin more thaan that.
The hidden keyhole is a cool custom thing if this is a showcar...and its fairly safe since no one knows where it is....

But of course..the cables from the battery is ok too..no doubht about it.