hey guys sorry mentioned this in my last post but i need to know by the morning. With the blitz kit is there anyway to get around the renforcer? they guy said if i dont get around it i wont be able to mesh the center grill cause there gonna have to grind down the inside of the bumper, please let me know if theres any way around this so i can relay the message thanks

Bob

Nope, no real way around it except just take the bitch out like I did.

Is there any real use for the reinforcer, i.e. what's the disadvantages to taking it out? Like more damage in an accident or something?



Jaeson
'96 Eclipse RS

Looks:
Clear side markers
front grill
chrome front emblem
Razo C/F pedals

Performance:
Perma-Cool oil cooler
custom airbox

you answered your own question.. just imagine if you got into a front end colision w/o the re-bar.. you will have fun with that situation.. when i was putting on the new bumper, i was debating wether to keep it on, or take it off.. i just left it on b/c i dont want to found out the real reasons as to why it is there. :)

its a 30mph crumble zone, absorbs impact.

now without it, imagine u doing 10 mph and the equivalent of doing 50 mph.

now imagine doing 50 mph without it. ouch.


sorry but i kept mine tia

Thanks guys, I figured that much, just nice to hear it from others too



Jaeson
'96 Eclipse RS

Looks:
Clear side markers
front grill
chrome front emblem
Razo C/F pedals

Performance:
Perma-Cool oil cooler
custom airbox

On The Way:
Hurricane_GS front & rear lower tie bars
95-96 side skirts

ouch i dont want to find out what would happen at 50 or on the highway the guy said absolutly no way he will do it taking that thing off, he wont take the liability he said dont worry ill work it out to keep it on so well see later today

i modified mine to fit. had to cut it in half but i still have some support. it's better than having no support at all....

if you get in a wreck without it, your engine and dash will be in your face and your insurance company wont pay for anything

Oh wow insurance wouldnt cover a thing, the guy said he thinks hell be able to do it with the reenforcer as long at he trims away a little of theinside of the bumper downside he said he might have to take the mesh off the middle grill which would really suck but i guess its kinda worth it so i still will live in a crash and be covered by insurance

bumber reinforcer = more traction

how does bumper reinforcer = more traction... 2 + 2 isn't equaling 4 in this equasion

maybe hes referring to the added weight to keep wheel hop to a minimum.. i dont know how much truth there is to that, but im guessing tahts what he means

I dont have the reinforcer on, but it really wouldnt matter, if i wreck, i'll be doing something too crazy for a peiece of hard plastic to hold back, hehe.

hell yeah, brad... that's what i'm saying. where's cyan on this subject. i'm waiting for him to say "what is a plastic bar gonna do when you crash at 60 mph besides break in half." it'll help at low speeds, but anything higher than like 20mph, which we normally drive at... that thing isn't gonna do a damn thing besides possibly cause more radiator damage by poking through it. imo

btw, i've got no front or rear rebar.

Actually, that bumper helps absorb at least a significant amount of the impact. The key is that it is long and horizontal so it will distribute the impact much better than if you just hit something in one direct spot. For example, if you hit a pole, it would at least somewhat help disperse the energy across the front end, rather than just impact one spot and immediately bend the frame in that one spot. It's there for a reason, but ya, in high speed impacts, it probably would not make too much of a difference (unless it really is engineered well to displace energy).

physics. 2 + 2 does = 4, but why are you adding when the equation is multiplying?

>physics. 2 + 2 does = 4, but why are you adding when the
>equation is multiplying?
simple equasion: Bumper support on car doesn't equal more traction!!!
And this is adding not multiplying.... its a + sign not X's