Looks like I am going with the motorsports manly because I can get them for a decent price and my shop sells them :) but I want to know if they are good or not if I get alot of neg comments I will go with another company. BTW they are going to be 18's unless I decide to only go 17's.

I got 'em in anthracite. They're a little heavy, but most 18's are. The only complaint I have is that the stickers that come on them peal off real easily (but I have had mine for 2 years and most of the stuff is still on there). Overall I like them and get a lot of other people that do as well.

Do you have any pics I am considering ordering one to see what they look like but that is 200$ I can spend else where if I do not like it.

sure. I used to have it in my sig, but haven't updated it on the new board. Hopefully this will work....



I have bigger versions. If you want to see more, go to http://pages.prodigy.net/mkerley/nseclipse.html
(preferably in Netscape) and go to the pictures tab. They're really old pics, but you can get the idea of how they'll look. You might have to hit reload after you click this link. I had to for some reason for the tabs to work right.

Matt