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Topic subjectWhat all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
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9870, What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by FlyinEsi, Sep-14-04 03:05 PM
I already have intake/exhaust, lightened flywheel

This winter, I have planned

3" downpipe
Under-drive pulleys
Balance Shaft removal
crankscraper

Anything else I can do for cheap, easy, slight HP gains?
9871, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by Vandy420a, Sep-14-04 03:24 PM
larger TB; 1g CAS (to advance timing); engine ground kit; port/polish turbo; port/polish head;

nitrous (but you probably want an engine build up before)

see I think instead of spending money here and there for small things, you should drop it all on a built engine that can withstand higher psi, then eventually get a larger turbo and or nitrous.
9872, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by 97gsx, Sep-14-04 06:27 PM
weight reduction, not always an easy task. you could think about not just how to make the engine faster but transfering that power to the pavement more efficiently or Bigger turbo
9873, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by DSMTunerS95, Sep-15-04 04:07 AM
Every ounce of power on a stock bottom end 4g63 , here would be my suggestions

3'' turbo back
ported exhaust manifold
SCM50/GT32E
650/750cc or there abouts
272/272's
SMIM
XACT flywheel or some lighter one
ACT2600
AEM/Aeromotive AFPR
Walbro 255
Prothane motor mounts
Some sort of FMIC w/short piping
S-afc, GM-mft, dsmlink, some sort of tuning device
Wires, Plugs, lil custom intake pipe. blah blah i think tahts all i can think of.
9874, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by Vandy420a, Sep-15-04 04:16 AM
what's SMIM?
9875, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by FlyinEsi, Sep-15-04 04:34 AM
Originally posted by DSMTunerS95
Every ounce of power on a stock bottom end 4g63 , here would be my suggestions 3'' turbo back ported exhaust manifold SCM50/GT32E 650/750cc or there abouts 272/272's SMIM XACT flywheel or some lighter one ACT2600 AEM/Aeromotive AFPR Walbro 255 Prothane motor mounts Some sort of FMIC w/short piping S-afc, GM-mft, dsmlink, some sort of tuning device Wires, Plugs, lil custom intake pipe. blah blah i think tahts all i can think of.


Okay, I'll play this game

3" turbo back -
ported exhaust manifold -
SCM50/GT32E - ??? What is that?
650/750cc injectors - 550s here already
272/272's - On my to buy list, Crower stage 3 cams as soon as I build the head to handle them
Lightened Flywheel -
Performance Clutch -
AFPR - Full Throttle Speed AFPR w/ fuel pressure gauge
Walbro 255 -
Motor Mounts - Nah, I like the quiet smooth idle of the 4g63
FMIC - Check my sig, Greddy big FMIC
DSMlink -
Wires -
Plugs -
Intake -

I know I need to build up the motor, bigger turbo, blah blah, I was just looking for some cheap, easy improvements to give me something to do while I save money.

9876, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by Pitchblack98, Sep-15-04 05:12 AM
sell it and get a 420a.... haha sorry had too.... Are you still running the T25 turbo on there?
9877, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by FlyinEsi, Sep-15-04 05:35 AM
No, I'm running a Big16G from RRE

That list from above is basically my entire mod list, plus the turbo and suspension parts. That guy had me pegged perfectly. I have plans for a motor and head build up, but I just want to do some little stuff while the car is put away in storage this winter.
9878, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by HybriDSM, Sep-15-04 05:50 AM
Build the engine, big turbo, supporting mods.

Doing little things like ort and polish ect are just aspects of engine build/machine work. My recommendation is not to try and squeeze out little bits of power here and there. Start saving for the engine build and tune, tune, tune. Tuning sqeezes every bit of power.

Also, your mod list has most of the supporting mods you'll need. Bigger turbo, injectors, fuel supply etc is the next step after the engine build (or before if you wanna run big boost til it blows, which is fine. I did it. I knew I would have to rebuild my engine so I upgraded everything outside of it and then once the engine went, it was time to go for internals).
9879, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by Pitchblack98, Sep-15-04 05:50 AM
Originally posted by FlyinEsi
while the car is put away in storage this winter.


you have AWD and your puttin it away for the winter... thats no fun... I bought my AWD to drive for the sole purpose to drive the hell outta it this winter in the snow... lol the GS is gonna get a make over... althought im a little behind schedule and under budget to get the GSX put back together before this winter.


OH and 1000 posts... and i gave it to the 4g63 section lol
9880, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by DSMTunerS95, Sep-15-04 06:24 AM
Originally posted by FlyinEsi
Originally posted by DSMTunerS95 Every ounce of power on a stock bottom end 4g63 , here would be my suggestions 3'' turbo back ported exhaust manifold SCM50/GT32E 650/750cc or there abouts 272/272's SMIM XACT flywheel or some lighter one ACT2600 AEM/Aeromotive AFPR Walbro 255 Prothane motor mounts Some sort of FMIC w/short piping S-afc, GM-mft, dsmlink, some sort of tuning device Wires, Plugs, lil custom intake pipe. blah blah i think tahts all i can think of.
Okay, I'll play this game 3" turbo back - ported exhaust manifold - SCM50/GT32E - ??? What is that? 650/750cc injectors - 550s here already 272/272's - On my to buy list, Crower stage 3 cams as soon as I build the head to handle them Lightened Flywheel - Performance Clutch - AFPR - Full Throttle Speed AFPR w/ fuel pressure gauge Walbro 255 - Motor Mounts - Nah, I like the quiet smooth idle of the 4g63 FMIC - Check my sig, Greddy big FMIC DSMlink - Wires - Plugs - Intake - I know I need to build up the motor, bigger turbo, blah blah, I was just looking for some cheap, easy improvements to give me something to do while I save money.


SCM50/GT32e are to very nice bolt on turbos for a 4g, there a very good pump gas turbo, im currently running the SCM50 which has the older style wheel, but is still pretty efficient, the new GT32 has the newer gt wheel and has a lil bit better spool and a little bit better top end

Prothane motor mounts didnt change the way my car idled at all, basically just got rid of what wheel hop i did have.


SMIM = Sheet Metal Intake Manifold
9881, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by FlyinEsi, Sep-15-04 06:34 AM
I had the motor mounts no my ESi, liked it for how it felt, but didn't like the way I could feel the idle throughout the entire car. I like how the car has a very smooth feeling idle now.

oh yeah, and AWD = No Wheel Hop.

Dylan, I bought a truck to drive around during the winter, tear up, and ruin the paint on. My clipse is too nice to ruin.
9882, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by BigBald, Sep-15-04 06:44 AM
SCM 50 = 50 Trim turbo....but i would build the motor and go with a Holset HX-40 turbo. A Guy has seen 549awhp @ 20psi of boost. This turbo is = to a t-66. Go for broke imo....
9883, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by Initial DSM, Sep-15-04 09:12 AM
Methanol/Water injection
sheet metal intake manifold
9884, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by DSMTunerS95, Sep-15-04 12:51 PM
Originally posted by FlyinEsi
I had the motor mounts no my ESi, liked it for how it felt, but didn't like the way I could feel the idle throughout the entire car. I like how the car has a very smooth feeling idle now. oh yeah, and AWD = No Wheel Hop. Dylan, I bought a truck to drive around during the winter, tear up, and ruin the paint on. My clipse is too nice to ruin.


AWD + Lots O Power = Wheel hop :) mine dosnt hop bad, but it does occasionally.
9885, RE: What all can be done to squeeze every ounce of power out of the 4g63?
Posted by PowerEclipses, Sep-17-04 08:50 AM
Sell the 16g and get a bigger turbo? hehe