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Topic subject'99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
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2332, '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by BRU_ce, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
So I'm talkin to this guy that I found through DSM Trader who is willing to sell me his 1996 TSi AWD as a trade for my 1999 Eclipse RS

The TSi has 64,000 miles (whether this is original or on a rebuilt motor is unclear at this point) Also, the TSi is unpainted and just primered black. He says he needs a new flex section for the DP but that it runs. It supposedly runs kind of rich because he used to have an 18g turbo on it but now it is back to stock T-25.
Here is his DSM Trader ad: http://www.gopartstrader.com/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detail&id=224606&category_id=106&sub_id=1040&variable_file=autos.variables&group=1&set=2&position=33&total_count=552&website=default&prev_action=display_sub_list&session=4252e4e335fe2327

My car has 132,000 miles on it, but it's been meticulously maintained by me. I got it w/ 100k and the exterior/interior are in almost MINT condition.

CLIFFNOTES: He wants my car plus $500 for his car. Good deal or not?
2333, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by thedawg, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
:shrug I'd do it. But don't count on it to be a reliable daily driver from day 1, it's gonna need some work. Hopefully you have another car?
2334, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by BRU_ce, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Really? Why wouldn't it be reliable if it is back on the stock turbo? He said to lean it out he would throw in the S-AFC so I could program the ECU. Also, he says there is an exhaust leak at the DP flex section but that it runs and pulls hard.

I'm not going to be modding it any further when I get it, maybe get a 16G turbo but that's it, and I would run conservative boost. Would it be fairly reliable?

He e-mailed me back and said it has 64,000 original miles.
2335, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I think that sounds like a great idea!! Just make sure the fuel problem gets taken care of...but if he went back to stock turbo, and doesn't have an SAFC it should be running perfect, unless he put bigger injectors in too, which he should have with the an 18g turbo.
2336, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by 97eclipse97, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
i sold my 97 rs to get a 95 gsx, just fyi
2337, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by BMPDirk, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
sounds like a good deal. I would ask what kind of injectors and fuel pump he has installed. Also, seems weird that he would want to trade a car thats faster(and awd), with half the miles for something slower, with more than twice the miles....just something to think about.
2338, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by BRU_ce, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Trust me, I've been asking myself that... but since I am going to be able to see it in person and drive it before I give him ANYTHING, I feel a little bit better about it... know what I mean?

Here's some pics he e-mailed me yesterday:





2339, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by RST95eclipse, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
That ride is clean. I'd ask myself why would he want to trade straight up + 500 for it when he wants a truck/suv. But it does sound really good in your shoes.
2340, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by 97eclipse97, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
it seems either the kid just wants a 'slow' car which he wont put money into (although we all know how quickly money can go on a 2gnt), or maybe the car has cw or some other problem so he just wants to get rid of it. also 64,000 is very low mileage for a 96 as thats under 7,000 a year. if it is the real deal than definitly jump all over that, just be cautious. i personally got screwed on my gsx, as there was rust starting on the strut towers and went through the bay, even to both fenders. what a nightmare thast been...hopefully ill get her back in the next week or two...and thats enough of me getting off topic. goodluck with this
2341, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by BRU_ce, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Well.. that deal fell through.

He contacted me and told me someone offered him $4,500 AND a pickup truck, so I can't compete with that.

Back to the GSX hunt it is... *sigh*

I was so ready to start boosting!!!
2342, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by Uberingram, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Keep trying do0d.
2343, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by 420a-Tnthewerks, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by BRU_ce
Well.. that deal fell through. He contacted me and told me someone offered him $4,500 AND a pickup truck, so I can't compete with that. Back to the GSX hunt it is... *sigh* I was so ready to start boosting!!!


So, offer him $5,000 plus your car. That's like $7500-$8000 for an AWD with 64,000 miles. Doubt you're gonna find a better deal.

edit- I say that because you said you were in the market for an AWD. $5000 may seem like alot, but it's really not for what you're getting.

edit dos- Unless it DOES have something wrong with it. Did you end up driving it?
2344, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by BRU_ce, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by 420a-Tnthewerks
Originally posted by BRU_ce Well.. that deal fell through. He contacted me and told me someone offered him $4,500 AND a pickup truck, so I can't compete with that. Back to the GSX hunt it is... *sigh* I was so ready to start boosting!!!
So, offer him $5,000 plus your car. That's like $7500-$8000 for an AWD with 64,000 miles. Doubt you're gonna find a better deal. edit- I say that because you said you were in the market for an AWD. $5000 may seem like alot, but it's really not for what you're getting. edit dos- Unless it DOES have something wrong with it. Did you end up driving it?


LOL... I can't offer him $5000 PLUS my car. I originally offered him $500 plus my car and that's only because my tax return was $380. I don't have that much extra money to spend, and truthfully... I'm looking for a 1G anyway.
2345, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by Uberingram, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by BRU_ce
and truthfully... I'm looking for a 1G anyway.


OooOoOo! Now that's the spirit!
2346, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by Narco, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by BRU_ce
Back to the GSX hunt it is... *sigh*


Like Uber said, don't give up. I had just about given up when mine came up for sale. I still have my GS, but I LOVE my GSX! Definately worth the wait, and it's just a fun car to drive.:love
2347, RE: '99 Eclipse RS for '96 TSi AWD?
Posted by BRU_ce, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Well I found another guy who is willing to trade... this time it's a '91 GSX. He has these mods:

Engine:
Custom 3inch cat back exhuast(no cat)
Custom 2 1/2 downpipe
2g MAS
2g Intake
Big 16g turbo
550cc injectors
ported head (intake side)
2g exhaust manifold
Custom 2 1/4 intercooling piping
Cometic 4layer metal head gasket
walbro 255 fuel pump
manual boost controller
Transmission:
Act 2100 clutch
lightened flywheel

Suspenion:
kyb struts front and rear
lowered 2 inches in front

Interior:
AFC
autometer boost gauge
autometer air/fuel gauge
greddy turbo timer
Ractive Tachometer

So what do you guys think? Should I do an even trade or ask for money on top?

What do you guys figure that it's putting down horsepower-wise or estimated 1/4 mile?
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