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Topic subjectHorrid death of a 1G
Topic URLhttps://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=i67&topic_id=2305
2305, Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by Uberingram, Apr-18-05 05:26 AM
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthread.php?t=101607

;(

Edit: Apparantly it's a repost. Oops.
2306, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by CrazyEclipse, Apr-18-05 05:37 AM
Its not really a repost on here... I saw the link on to0ners yesterday afternoon and 4 people since have sent me the link. The link spread quick.
2307, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by Uberingram, Apr-18-05 05:54 AM
Originally posted by CrazyEclipse
I saw the link on to0ners yesterday afternoon

Hence the reason I didn't see it. :P
2308, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by madhatter210, Apr-18-05 05:56 AM
Damn!!!!!!!! that is some sad shit for real! I feel bad for him/her imo, not a good way to go for any car and just a bad day for real .
2309, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by Vandy420a, Apr-18-05 07:39 AM
its new to me...

Really sucks for that car---I'm glad the driver was alright at least
2310, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by EvMan2345, Apr-18-05 07:54 AM
Ive read about in on EvolutionM and ToOners as well, and theres alot of speculation into what caused it, (some say nitrous backfire, others believe something fuel related), and why Norwalk wasnt prepared for it. Personally, I believe nothing would have stopped damage to it. I have seen 2 cars go up in flames and the flames spread quickly! Glad he is ok, that is all that matters. Car is replacable...

Evan B
97 GS- FOR SALE
90 GSX-sold
Stamford CT
EvMan2345@aol.com
2311, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by SilverBullet20g, Apr-18-05 08:26 AM
That is terrible...makes me scared about using my nitrous without a halon system. You can see the flames as they spread from front to back.. Sad day for a full-race dsm with a parachute and four slicks
2312, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by Uberingram, Apr-18-05 08:32 AM
Originally posted by EvMan2345
and why Norwalk wasnt prepared for it. Personally, I believe nothing would have stopped damage to it.

Yeah, same for me too. The pics give a good timeline but still aren't real footage. I've seen plenty of fuel fires and you just don't put those out. Just let it burn till it's out. Who knows though, it's gone to DSM heaven.

2313, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by Jeff_99gs, Apr-18-05 08:36 AM
Another race car at the shootout last year blew up due to nitrous as well and caught fire. However the owner had installed an automatic fire suppressant system that basically put the fire out before it could spread like that.

Lesson learned. If you are going to have that much money invested in a race car, invest the extra cash to make sure it doesn't burn to the ground on the track.
2314, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by EvMan2345, Apr-18-05 08:56 AM
Originally posted by Uberingram
Yeah, same for me too. The pics give a good timeline but still aren't real footage. I've seen plenty of fuel fires and you just don't put those out. Just let it burn till it's out. Who knows though, it's gone to DSM heaven.


There is a 36 second video of the pass, i couldnt access it at school lab (where i am now) but people did say the fire spread quickly in the 36 seconds of the video (from the launch to the fire)

Evan B
97 GS- FOR SALE
90 GSX-sold
Stamford CT
EvMan2345@aol.com
2315, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by EvMan2345, Apr-18-05 11:40 AM
according to the driver- it wasnt nitrous...

After getting the car back and going over eveything the cause of the fire is the aeromotive fuel rail. It has three brackets that bolt to the fuel rail and then the otherside of the bracket bolts to the head. The bolts that bolt to the fuel railed came out and let the fuel rail move enough to unseat the injectors and spray fuel into the engine back. Per the video the second bang is a back fire which ignited the fuel and started the fire. We talked to Aeromotive today and they said the bolts are supposed to have loctite from the factory.

The reason i took so long to slow the car and get out is i didn't realize it was on fire until flames kissed me feet. PLus the engine had already stalled and with no power brakes it is kinda hard to stop. I didn't smell anything burning and thought the white smoke i saw was oil smoke so i steered for the side of the track to get out of the groove.

There were no frantic adjustments made before this pass. John Shepherd was helping us out to adjust the shift linkage on the car because it was all out of whack and would not let me shift into 3rd or 4th very easily. The car was run down the track with no nitrous to make sure the alignment was on. The next run it went 11.0 @ 108 missing third and coasting after third because i had no 4th. I can tell you right now this car was way faster than last years car. I was only runnign 32 psi and a 100 shot versus 36 psi and 150shot from last year when i went 10.1 @ 141.

This was taken off his local boards-
http://toledotuners.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2040&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

Evan B
97 GS- FOR SALE
90 GSX-sold
Stamford CT
EvMan2345@aol.com
2316, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by a_miller_76, Apr-18-05 11:47 AM
Originally posted by EvMan2345
Originally posted by Uberingram Yeah, same for me too. The pics give a good timeline but still aren't real footage. I've seen plenty of fuel fires and you just don't put those out. Just let it burn till it's out. Who knows though, it's gone to DSM heaven.
There is a 36 second video of the pass, i couldnt access it at school lab (where i am now) but people did say the fire spread quickly in the 36 seconds of the video (from the launch to the fire)


http://www.ohiosubaru.com/video/CarFire.wmv
2317, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by Jeff_99gs, Apr-18-05 02:10 PM
Originally posted by a_miller_76
http://www.ohiosubaru.com/video/CarFire.wmv



;(
2318, RE: Horrid death of a 1G
Posted by eclipzGST, Apr-18-05 02:48 PM
Really sucks to see things like that happen to a car with so much time and $$ invested.
What sucks even more is how fast the pics and vid spread through all the other car forums. Now, any fast DSM w/N2o will be labeled as a timebomb just like EVERY 2G will end up with CW. :rolleyes