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36553, Remember the *good* hip hop? Back in the day?
Posted by DR1665, Oct-29-08 09:30 AM
I started a new station on Pandora this morning and have not been able to change it all damn day. Based it on Bell Biv Devoe. That's right. BBD. Back when bands like Pearl Jam and Nirvana hit the scene, I was only marginally interested. I spent my days jamming out to the likes of...

BBD, Public Enemy, Run DMC, Arrested Development, Jodeci, New Edition, A Tribe Called Quest and the like.

Anyone else like hip hop from the golden years between 1987-1997? Anything newer than Dre, WarrenG, Cube, NWA et al has been predominately bullshit. I think Tupac was the nail in the coffin of true hip hop music. Today it's just generic drivel sold to clueless white kids in the suburbs.

Anyway, thought I would see if anyone else picked up a good vibe from a trip down memory lane with this sort of stuff.

(PS - I also have stations based on BBKing, MilesDavis, Beethoven, Hybrid, Pendulum, Cavalera Conspiracy, and Dimmu Borgir.) :P
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Posted by thedawg, Oct-29-08 09:43 AM
... Ahmad
36555, RE: Remember the *good* hip hop? Back in the day?
Posted by Fallen4ng31, Oct-29-08 09:49 AM
Geto (That's right not Ghetto) Boys, Public Enemy and Run DMC. I miss the day when thought was put into the rhymes. Now it's all just I'm in a gang nigga, Ima shoot yo mama nigga... *sigh*
36557, RE: Remember the *good* hip hop? Back in the day?
Posted by djtrickee, Oct-29-08 10:25 AM
Originally posted by DR1665
Jodeci,


This explains sooooooo much.
36565, RE: Remember the *good* hip hop? Back in the day?
Posted by micyek, Oct-29-08 02:53 PM
beastie boys :shrug
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Posted by DirtMegirt, Oct-29-08 03:38 PM
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Posted by EvuLFleA, Oct-30-08 01:48 AM
Rick Astley
36576, RE: Remember the *good* hip hop? Back in the day?
Posted by Fallen4ng31, Oct-30-08 02:22 AM
Originally posted by EvuLFleA
Rick Astley


36578, RE: Remember the *good* hip hop? Back in the day?
Posted by ChanceB, Oct-30-08 03:35 AM
Dang, i've been on the same thing for the last couple of weeks i've been playing it at work. Its been driving people up the wall up there, i'm so sick of techno its unbelievable. But i've been running it off slacker.com I like it better than pandora because when you search an artist it automatically plays that artist not an artist similiar to them.
36581, RE: Remember the *good* hip hop? Back in the day?
Posted by totaleklipse97, Oct-30-08 06:10 AM
Ha so funny! So this has become Brian's "coming out" thread!

Before you posted this I actually was d/l'ing Dr. Dre's old cd Chronic and looking for some of this other ones. I will disagree about the Tupac comment as I think once he was killed is when shit went down the crapper. What he produced and sold *during his lifetime* was in general quality shit that had actual lyrics and meaning behind what he was signing. Once all the "bling-bling" shit came around and every video had lambos and Ferrari's is when rap was degraded from crap to just plain fucking worthless horseshit. Once in a while new music comes out into the mainstream that isn't complete garbage.. but it's been almost non-existent the last few years. We always made fun of our parents for 60-70's rock they hung on to (although some of that is good too) now we ourselves are going back to the music of our childhood because the current music is mindless drivel in our opinion. Interesting cycle I would say.
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Posted by xcasbonx, Oct-31-08 01:16 AM
Originally posted by totaleklipse97
We always made fun of our parents for 60-70's rock they hung on to (although some of that is good too) now we ourselves are going back to the music of our childhood because the current music is mindless drivel in our opinion. Interesting cycle I would say.


This is oh so true. Great point made. I still can't fathom how today's younger generation can be fueled by the mindless driven ignorance that is displayed on MTV and all the bling bling, sittin on twenty fo's etc...

It's not cool to display the bling anymore, for christ sake look at the economy and where we're at now. If you're gonna flaunt the shit still, do at least some good and donate to some charity and share your wealth.
36729, RE: Remember the *good* hip hop? Back in the day?
Posted by totaleklipse97, Nov-06-08 01:54 PM
Originally posted by xcasbonx If you're gonna flaunt the shit still, do at least some good and donate to some charity and share your wealth.


Watch out sir.. you might be called a socialist if you say that too loud LOL

I remember when people rapped because of the bullshit they had survived or grew up around, not what they bought when they sold out. Most of these "rappers" grew up in suburban middle class households and cried like bitches when they didn't get a capri sun with their bagged lunch. Shit... music in general used to mean something, now it's repetitive bullshit that is regurgitated on every song of every album. Thank you 80's and 90's for giving us the last bit of artistic indulgence in mainstream media. Once you take the independent and put them in a high dollar label they forget where they came from and subject their artistic intelligence to the garbage of the record labels. FUCKING SELL OUT BITCHES!!!!
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Posted by DirtMegirt, Oct-31-08 02:05 AM
Originally posted by totaleklipse97
I will disagree about the Tupac comment as I think once he was killed is when shit went down the crapper.


I may be wrong, but I think that's what Brian was saying. Once Tupac was killed, it was the nail in the coffin for GOOD hip-hop.
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Posted by DR1665, Oct-31-08 05:20 AM
Originally posted by DirtMegirt
I may be wrong, but I think that's what Brian was saying. Once Tupac was killed, it was the nail in the coffin for GOOD hip-hop.


You got it right, sir. With the departure of Tupac, mainstream hip hop left the path of righteous lyrical skills and a message to mindless, superficial drivel with no substance. There's a reason why they all have to "feature" other artists on more than half the tracks on their albums.

There's a definite difference between the likes of Digital Underground and, say, Westside Connection, but both demonstrate lyrical ability and entertain beyond simply getting bunk and crunk at da cloob while you lean back, lean back, lean back. I mean, what would Tupac say if he saw how the "hits" today are little more than four or five sentences repeated over a 15 second loop of some 80s pop track? I bet he'd smack a few niggaz 'round the way.

On that note, call 222-2222. I got an answering machine that'll talk to you.
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Posted by DSMRoadster, Nov-05-08 06:15 PM
90's hip hop is far greater and beyond this new millenium shit. I can't stand rap song about some stupid dance. Though I will give it up to Jay Z and Nas for being the last remnants of the good ole times. Just not the same anymore man. EPMD, KRS One, De La Soul, Big Daddy Kane, wtf happened to rap music? Song with messages...two of my all time favorites "keep ya head up" by 2pac and "If I Ruled the World" by Nas.
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Posted by ez, Nov-05-08 07:40 PM
beastie boys and wutang, glad to see some guys on here know whats up.

Its absolutely hilarious what passes for music on TV - though I can't say much more about it b/c I gave away my TV set years ago.

So who does the media love to call prolific lyrical geniuses nowadays? Idiots like this- KONICHIWA KANYE BITCHES