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31916, Layin pipe!
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Mar-04-08 05:09 AM
So its been in the 40's just barely 50's here the past few days, I decide i want to run the power to my shed. Yeah ok, 2-3 inches down, ground is frozen!



had to pickaxe all the damn dirt out and I am still only 5" down with the pipe.


What were you looking for some type of porn here?


Go ahead Dan.....laugh. I should have rented a ditchwitch!

Terry
31918, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by goalie40, Mar-04-08 05:47 AM
well first I was thinking porn sweet, then intercooling piping would be cool too. I'm installing mine this weekend. But no
you Fail!
31921, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by Keith2172, Mar-04-08 08:19 AM
Just to be an asshole, spec is 3' deep. Good luck with it and remember to cut the power before you tie it in!


P.S. You should have rented a Ditchwitch.
31923, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Mar-04-08 08:23 AM
Ha, after getting a foot of snow a few days ago, it was 50* here yesterday, all the snow melted and I thought it would be a good idea to put in my mail box since when I resided my house I had to take it off the house. I started digging in the ground and it was froze too, so it will have to wait.

But Terry, you should have rented a Ditchwitch.
31925, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by noboost, Mar-04-08 09:09 AM
Originally posted by Keith2172
You should have rented a Ditchwitch.


31928, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by goalie40, Mar-04-08 11:19 AM
Originally posted by noboost
Originally posted by Keith2172 You should have rented a Ditchwitch.



And some porn we expect alot from you

:)
31933, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by CopperEclipse96, Mar-04-08 01:13 PM
I can see it now....

you sell the house in a few years, and the new owners decide to have a barbecue. They're setting up the volleyball net, pounding a stake into the ground, when ZAAAAAAAP! lol
31940, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Mar-05-08 02:01 AM
Electric spec is not 3', i work for the electric utility and can say from experience that you are very wrong.

Water pipes are minimum 36" due to frost line.

Least i wasnt digging for a mailbox...lol

Screw it to the top of a 55 gallon can mike!
31941, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Mar-05-08 03:17 AM
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Least i wasnt digging for a mailbox...lol Screw it to the top of a 55 gallon can mike!


ROFLMAO.
31942, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by susafuss, Mar-05-08 06:06 AM
That looks like it was fun.

It reminds me of when i did surveying work. A 130lb man driving a metal stake in a frozen ground with a 20lb sludge never seemed to work out for me, took like 15-20mins for me to do one:P
31943, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Mar-05-08 06:16 AM
Mike's mailbox.....




better yet:


31944, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by susafuss, Mar-05-08 06:18 AM
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Mike's mailbox.....


Wow, now that is great :bowdown
31945, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by Keith2172, Mar-05-08 07:49 AM
Originally posted by susafuss
That looks like it was fun. It reminds me of when i did surveying work. A 130lb man driving a metal stake in a frozen ground with a 20lb sludge never seemed to work out for me, took like 15-20mins for me to do one:P


Better yet is watching a 105lbs girl jump up and down on a roundpoint shovel trying to pull a soil sample of bone dry clay, plus the 5 burly men standing around watching her!
31946, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by whodatt1, Mar-05-08 09:31 AM
lol dumbass.. you can expect the ground to be frozen all the way 'till mid April at least. Why do you think I did not build my deck in the spring... :)
31947, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by Fallen4ng31, Mar-06-08 03:46 AM
I'm not using to seeing dirt when people dig. It's all sand here.
31965, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by CopperEclipse96, Mar-06-08 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Electric spec is not 3', i work for the electric utility and can say from experience that you are very wrong.


Our primary cables are rarely that deep lol.
31966, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Mar-07-08 02:52 AM
By primary you referring to 4/12kv/34kV correct? Your right, new subdivisions typically get the primaries, transformers, and most services installed before final grading. A service drop is not referred to as a primary (yet so many people seem to think it is). Now the damn landscapers come along and remove 12-24" of clay to lay down 4" of top soil. Service drops are only installed 24" below surface and thats direct bury. Conduit runs are a little different depending on application. Most of your City (chicago) duct packages can be as deep as 20' or 6'. It all depends on the engineering and other utilities located there. In the city we installed all concrete duct packages though so good luck hitting it with a hand shovel. It all depends on where you live to, southern states have a hard time because 24" is all water.

Many garage feed wiring is within the top 12" of soil and its typically direct bury Romex. 40 years ago there were no such things as spec or whats really important is CODE. Your believed spec doesnt mean jack shit to anyone. Plainfield still has very lienant CODE. Shit, our houses are all built with romex...no conduit. When i rewired my garage I went with 1/2 conduit, not because its safer, because it was covered inside the walls and if i burned up a wire, i was not going to tear my wall apart to fix it. Same with the shed, direct bury would need to be around 16' down with my dogs but sched 40 PVC cant even be broken into with a hand shovel.



Terry
31971, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by CopperEclipse96, Mar-07-08 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
By primary you referring to 4/12kv/34kV correct? Your right, new subdivisions typically get the primaries, transformers, and most services installed before final grading. A service drop is not referred to as a primary (yet so many people seem to think it is). Now the damn landscapers come along and remove 12-24" of clay to lay down 4" of top soil. Service drops are only installed 24" below surface and thats direct bury. Conduit runs are a little different depending on application. Most of your City (chicago) duct packages can be as deep as 20' or 6'. It all depends on the engineering and other utilities located there. In the city we installed all concrete duct packages though so good luck hitting it with a hand shovel. It all depends on where you live to, southern states have a hard time because 24" is all water.


Yeah, I don't mean the service drops. Primaries being the wire feeding the transformers... ours are 4kv or 13.2 kv. All our feed cable is in conduit under roads and stuff, but in residential UDs it's obviously just buried. I don't know anything about underground stuff, except for the UD stuff for residential developments, and industrial parks, and I like it that way. I hate underground. It's a real pain in the ass.

On a side note, we just got hit with an ice storm, and i've worked three 16 hour days in a row, and I gotta go it again tomorrow and possibly sunday. I can't wait until all this shit is cleaned up so I can have a life again.
31976, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Mar-08-08 05:53 AM
Your a lineman? If so congrats....it will be the best career of your life. you can anywhere and work at any time. If your ever in chicago we will have to get together.

Terry
31991, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by CopperEclipse96, Mar-09-08 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Your a lineman? If so congrats....it will be the best career of your life. you can anywhere and work at any time. If your ever in chicago we will have to get together. Terry



Yup, been doing it for a few years now. I think we talked about this once before... aren't you a dispatcher?

Ugh, I worked 92 hours this week, thanks to the ice storm in northeast ohio. I'm friggen exhausted. Should be a nice paycheck though. And yeah, if I'm ever out that way we should meet up.
31995, RE: Layin pipe!
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Mar-09-08 04:14 PM
Yeah i do vaguely recall talking about it. Sometimes I regret leavign the union/Field but other times like winter I dont. Storms are much better to be in the field though. Office is so screwed up its not funny....:)