Looks pretty sweet, for a man in his late 60s. What the hell is with dodge turning all of these sports cars into aggressive looking grocery getters? Do they think since the STI and EVO are four doors, thats what they should aim for also?

http://www.dodge.com/en/avenger/index.html

I'd take the new Lancer over that. lol.

Hrm. Pretty Craptacular looking. I still really like the new Charger.

Looks like they have an awd option with their 3.5 v6. I wouldn't buy one, but it doesn't look too bad.

Originally posted by WIDECLIPSE
Looks like they have an awd option with their 3.5 v6. I wouldn't buy one, but it doesn't look too bad.

Auto only. :(

Originally posted by etx
I still really like the new Charger.

X2 The SRT-8 looks pretty mean IMO


As for the avenger it's eh not bad but nothing spectacular. As far as sedans go I like the legacy 2.5gt and the new galant. Oh and the evo is slowly growing on me too :)

I like the commercial :shrug

if only it looked like the 95-00 avengers i would have bought one

Originally posted by etx
Hrm. Pretty Craptacular looking. I still really like the new Charger.

True, the new charger is kinda hot. But its not a car i would get to tune. Its more of the kinda thing i would get one in black, and throw some 19-20" black rims, tint it out. It would be my g-ride.

What. The. Fuck. where the hell does chrysler get this shit? why does everything have 4 doors? what happened to 2 door cars. Jesus. all their shit looks the same. no wonder GM is going to buy them. Anyone catch the 2.4 motor isnt a chrysler motor? its a "world motor". God damn.

Originally posted by hazardeclipse
Anyone catch the 2.4 motor isnt a chrysler motor? its a "world motor". God damn.

Old news and good for business.

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/world-engine.html

world engine IS a chrysler engine. They are trying to take mitsu engines out of their lines.

you want 2 doors?
http://www.dodgechallenger.com/forums/photo.asp?photoid=78&asortType=6&apage=1

Gm isnt buying anyone. out of the big 3, I think they are struggling the most.

Originally posted by Chamuko
world engine IS a chrysler engine. They are trying to take mitsu engines out of their lines. you want 2 doors? http://www.dodgechallenger.com/forums/photo.asp?photoid=78&asortType=6&apage=1 Gm isnt buying anyone. out of the big 3, I think they are struggling the most.

Hear hear.

Whos going to be the first to swap one in their 2gnt?

Originally posted by EclipseSix
Whos going to be the first to swap one in their 2gnt?

LOL. I saw another commerical for the Sebring last night and they mentioned the World Engine having 173hp. It actually crossed my mind, "Someone should be swapping one of those soon..."

Originally posted by DR1665

Originally posted by EclipseSix Whos going to be the first to swap one in their 2gnt?

LOL. I saw another commerical for the Sebring last night and they mentioned the World Engine having 173hp. It actually crossed my mind, "Someone should be swapping one of those soon..."

It'll drop right in with the intake side up front. :P

Originally posted by Chamuko
out of the big 3, I think they are struggling the most.

You thought wrong. They are doing the best right now.

Chrysler is picking up, and Ford is going out of business soon no doubt.

Originally posted by etx

Originally posted by Chamuko out of the big 3, I think they are struggling the most.

You thought wrong. They are doing the best right now. Chrysler is picking up, and Ford is going out of business soon no doubt.

true, in overall numbers. I was thinking more along the lines of their size vs their sales. Gm is HUGE. Of course honda and toyota are kicking ass.

world motor= mitsu designed, it's the same basic engine that mitsu has in the new lancers, and the evo X will be using a mivec turbo version

Chrysler Group Revs-Up All-New Line of Engines

Engineering Contributions Made by the Chrysler Group to the World Engine Program Result in Premium Benefits for Customers

- World-Class Four-Cylinder Engines Will Deliver an Exceptional Combination of Fuel Efficiency, Quality and Performance - Chrysler Group Engineers Lead Dual Variable Valve Timing and Flow Control Valve Intake Manifold Design - Chrysler Group World Engines Will Be the First in the U.S. to Use These Technologies

AUBURN HILLS, Mich., Dec. 16 -- Chrysler Group engineering leads the development of key technologies that will give its customers high-value benefits in cost-efficient engines. These technologies will debut on the Chrysler Group version of the World Engine, co-developed by DaimlerChrysler, Hyundai Motor Company and Mitsubishi Motors Corporation for the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance (GEMA).

"The Chrysler Group will deliver customer benefits with this series of engines, including significant refinements in sound quality, improvements in fuel efficiency, world-class horsepower and torque and reductions in noise, vibration and harshness," said Eric Ridenour, Executive Vice President Product Development, Chrysler Group. "Our engineers leveraged the cost savings of the GEMA program to give customers the valuable benefits they desire with these premium technologies."

Aggressive performance and fuel economy targets are achieved through advanced cylinder head port and intake manifold design -- Chrysler Group core competencies, and technologies not typically found in engines of this class. These technologies include dual Variable Valve Timing (VVT) and intake manifold design with flow control valves, both launching in the U.S. first in Chrysler Group versions of the World Engine.

Engines of three different displacements will be produced for the Chrysler Group: 1.8-liter, 2.0-liter and 2.4-liter. The horsepower and torque targets are among the best four-cylinder engines -- 170 horsepower and 165 lb-ft of torque for the 2.4-liter.

Fuel economy is a key factor in the four-cylinder market, and the Chrysler Group continues to find ways to offer better performance in this area. These engines are targeted to raise the efficiency by 5 percent over the engines they replace. These technologies also enable the engine to meet the ultra- clean ULEV II emissions standards.

"Just one example of giving customers benefits from high-value technology is Variable Valve Timing with continuously variable phasing on both the intake and exhaust valves," Ridenour said. "Dual VVT is currently only found on higher cost performance and luxury engines -- the Chrysler Group will be the first to offer it in the U.S. in entry-level vehicles, giving customers better fuel economy and performance."

Chrysler Group has a high standard for sound quality and minimal noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) in Chrysler, Jeep(R) and Dodge vehicles. To meet these standards, even in entry-level vehicles, our engineers addressed NVH through several unique measures. An isolated valve cover and a dampened oil pan reduce sound at the top and bottom of the engine. A variety of select-fit parts minimize NVH. Engine idle smoothness is improved through dual VVT technology and the flow control valve intake manifold.

This series of engines marks several firsts for the Chrysler Group:
* Dual Variable Valve Timing
* Intake charge-motion flow control valves
* High-pressure, die-cast aluminum four-cylinder engine block
* Direct-acting mechanical bucket tappet valvetrain

"In addition to these unique attributes, these engines will deliver world- class quality and durability," Ridenour said. "These engines have benefited from the contributions and commitment of all three partners."

Hyundai led the development of the base engine, and the Chrysler Group has made significant engineering contributions to the engine design. Through the involvement of all three automakers, durability testing for World Engine includes 15 million customer-equivalent miles. Additionally, partners have shared best practices and lessons learned from past and current experiences, resulting in improved refinement, quality and durability.

This family of engines for the Chrysler Group will be manufactured at the GEMA plants in Dundee, Mich.

Originally posted by hazardeclipse
where the hell does chrysler get this shit? why does everything have 4 doors? what happened to 2 door cars. Jesus. all their shit looks the same.

Quoted FOR TRUTH!

Originally posted by etx
Hrm. Pretty Craptacular looking. I still really like the new Charger.

besides the front bumper, how is the avenger any different than the charger? Its the same damn car!

Originally posted by SILVERNT

Originally posted by etx Hrm. Pretty Craptacular looking. I still really like the new Charger.

besides the front bumper, how is the avenger any different than the charger? Its the same damn car!

Quoted for great justice.

gee. kinda unimaginative if you ask me.
http://www.dodge.com/vehicles.html

v6 235 hp awd guys. If or should I say when the aftermarket gets to it some good things will come. Im also a Dodge Magnum fan