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12183, What would you do?
Posted by cougar694u, Jul-12-06 02:32 AM
I've pretty much got my mind made up that I'm going for the new job.

Here's the deal, my current salary is $38,729.60 with 15 days paid vacation a year, plus 10 paid holidays (25 days total). I get $1000/yr tuition reimbursement, which isn't much. Since I'm salaried, there's basically no chance of overtime.

I was offered a position for $45,760 with 28 days off a year (no holidays, they must be taken out of my leave time), $1500/yr tuition reimbursement, and a certification allowance. This is an hourly position with the chance of overtime, but also the chance of not getting the full 40 hours.

Now, I like my current job, have a good work relationship with everyone here and enjoy the atmosphere, but I scrape by at the end of each pay period. The new job would allow for $135 more a week, or $585.87 more a month.

The drive wouldn't change but maybe two miles one way, so that's trivial.

Like I said, I've pretty much made up my mind, but was curious if your thoughts.

Poll question: What would you do?

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12184, RE: What would you do?
Posted by youkickedmydog, Jul-12-06 03:14 AM
You should ask your self, is it soemthing that you like to do? Personally I wouldent becuase their is a chance that you may make less then the job your currently at. But then again I work in an place where you have to fight for hours.
12185, RE: What would you do?
Posted by micyek, Jul-12-06 04:24 AM
I say ask for a raise or your going to consider other options. Don't burn bridges but let them know your are serious. If you like working at the current place a moderate raise, (not quite what you would make at the new one) will be worth staying there IMO. The time off you have at the current would be a major factor in my decision.
12186, RE: What would you do?
Posted by cougar694u, Jul-12-06 04:48 AM
Originally posted by micyek
I say ask for a raise or your going to consider other options. Don't burn bridges but let them know your are serious. If you like working at the current place a moderate raise, (not quite what you would make at the new one) will be worth staying there IMO. The time off you have at the current would be a major factor in my decision.


I brought it up to my boss last week. He said he'd try to keep me here, will push for as much as he can, and doesn't want me to leave. He also said that if it were him, he'd leave, too. I get my offer letter today and will present it to he and the GM tomorrow. The only problem is, the new GM (as of about 6 months ago) has it out for IT and won't go the extra mile to keep me here. In a meeting a few months back he distinctly pointed out that he's not happy that the majority of our IT staff make more than the supervisors.

This happened with one of our developers a few years ago and the original GM had no problem stepping up to keep him here. Too bad that's not the GM I have to deal with. The general consensus is that the atmosphere has declined somewhat since the change-over.

They're doing my review and should have it done by Friday. If it's a significant raise (which I doubt, others say they got like a 2-3% raise on average) I'll probably stay, but there's no room for advancement here, which there is at the new place.

**EDIT**
Originally posted by micyek
The time off you have at the current would be a major factor in my decision.

What do you mean? 25 days vs 28 days? Or accrued vacation time?
12187, RE: What would you do?
Posted by Diceman19, Jul-12-06 05:16 AM
just take the new job and be done with it. with the fact that your current job seems to be dead end, you are scraping, and the job environment has gone down over the last six months, take the new job where advancement is available, overtime is available, and you start out with a "bonus raise" from the get go. my .02 cents. now if i could make 38k a year, i would pop a boner.
12189, RE: What would you do?
Posted by micyek, Jul-12-06 05:38 AM
Well I considered the 10 paid holidays you get currently...so I was looking it like 35 to 28. Not a big deal now that I look at the actual numbers...LOL

I personally don't like jumping ship. I guess I'm not a real big risk taker when it comes to making a living. When I look at a new job I consider the stability of my current job and the possibility of getting laid off if things get slow at the new one, because I'm the "low man" on the totem pole. But I work in a very "feast or famine" type field, (assembly machines and fixtures). If industry in my area gets slow...so do I. That may not be the case with IT....I have no idea.
12192, RE: What would you do?
Posted by DR1665, Jul-12-06 06:41 AM
Originally posted by Diceman19
just take the new job and be done with it. with the fact that your current job seems to be dead end, you are scraping, and the job environment has gone down over the last six months, take the new job where advancement is available, overtime is available, and you start out with a "bonus raise" from the get go. my .02 cents. now if i could make 38k a year, i would pop a boner.

Nail? Meet head.

Seriously. If you're not on the fast track inside of two years, you need to look closely at where you want to be in the future. If your current postition offers nothing to help you towards your personal/professional goals, then there's no reason to stick around. Sounds to me like you know this change is what you need to pursue, but you're concerned about upsetting people you get along so well with right now. Nothing wrong with that, but don't sell yourself short.

Jump ship. If they aren't willing to make things happen for you now, while they are at a chance they can lose you, what makes you think they're going to do so later out of the "goodness of their heart?"

Leave and don't look back, imo.




12194, RE: What would you do?
Posted by Diceman19, Jul-12-06 07:01 AM
Originally posted by DR1665
Originally posted by Diceman19 just take the new job and be done with it. with the fact that your current job seems to be dead end, you are scraping, and the job environment has gone down over the last six months, take the new job where advancement is available, overtime is available, and you start out with a "bonus raise" from the get go. my .02 cents. now if i could make 38k a year, i would pop a boner.
Nail? Meet head. Seriously. If you're not on the fast track inside of two years, you need to look closely at where you want to be in the future. If your current postition offers nothing to help you towards your personal/professional goals, then there's no reason to stick around. Sounds to me like you know this change is what you need to pursue, but you're concerned about upsetting people you get along so well with right now. Nothing wrong with that, but don't sell yourself short. Jump ship. If they aren't willing to make things happen for you now, while they are at a chance they can lose you, what makes you think they're going to do so later out of the "goodness of their heart?" Leave and don't look back, imo.


i dont get it. maybe im dense.
12196, RE: What would you do?
Posted by DR1665, Jul-12-06 07:27 AM
Originally posted by Diceman19
i dont get it. maybe im dense.

I'm saying he should go for the new position for the same reasons you pointed out. Opportunity for advancement, better benefits, and better pay on the one hand, dead end, mediocre benefits, and insulting counter offer on the other. I'd go for the new job without any hesitation.
12202, RE: What would you do?
Posted by Diceman19, Jul-12-06 09:20 AM
Originally posted by DR1665
Originally posted by Diceman19 i dont get it. maybe im dense.
I'm saying he should go for the new position for the same reasons you pointed out. Opportunity for advancement, better benefits, and better pay on the one hand, dead end, mediocre benefits, and insulting counter offer on the other. I'd go for the new job without any hesitation.


i just didnt understand the analogy. ;-) just got it, you hit the nail on the head. :D

i want a new job that pays more. :-(