i have the h&r sport springs,i havent put them on yet,but do you guys think i need a front and rear camber kit?also how do they look with the factory 16" rims and tires,i am looking for 17s but cant afford them right away,thanks for all your help

I got the H&R sports too. I don't have them put on either. I got the front and rear camber kits to be safe. You will most definatly need the back ones. They look great with 16" wheels. I have 17" wheels.

I meant to say this before i hit the post message button. You can use the $15 off the mods page to fix the rear. It may be off a slight bit but should work good enough.

I needed both front and rear camber correction. The 15 dollar mod *almost* corrected the rears, but i needed a few more washers on one side for it to be in factory specs. I got the ingalls front camber kit for the fronts. When i had my alignment done without the front kit installed, i needed about 1.25 positive degrees of camber on the front wheels, wich is quite a bit. You will eat up your tires rather quickly without having the camber in factory spec. Expect your tires to last about 6 months or less without front camber correction..

You guys scare me every time you talk about camber kits hehe. Is it really that bad to have negative camber? I have -1 degree in both fronts, and almost -2 degrees in the rears. I notice no unusual tire wear at all. The insides might wear out a bit faster, but not noticeably. I'm told that improper toe eats tires way faster than bad camber, which is why a lot of people that lower their cars and don't get alignments notice really bad tire wear. When I had my H&R Sports, I ran the tires down to the wear bars (got about 20k on those dunlop sp8000's) and the only unusual wear was that hte inside edges were more worn down. But by that point, the whole tire needed to be replaced, so the negative camber didn't seem to do much harm in that case. So I wonder, is a camber kit really necessary if you drive somewhat aggressively and wear out your tires anyway?

BTW, my stock tires only lasted 20k miles without lowering at all, so I think getting 20k from the sp8000's was good.