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7849, Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by HadesOmega, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Well I installed it today and man it's a lot more hassle than your traditional strut bar. I had to move the battery forward as much as I could, use the spacers and bolts to more the brake reservoir bracket out, push my FMU down a litte, and I had to remove one bolt from my windshield washer reservoir and pull it out (as in bending it).

The bar looks great, really shiny and the blue sticker matches my plug wires, couplers, FMU, and an catch can fitting.

As for handling the front is like very rigid now and responds very quick. Looks like I gotta be extra careful of understeer now, cuz the added response make break the front tires traction faster if I jerk the wheel.

well here are the pix of the install. Haha the instructions that came with it looked so complicated. First it said to move the AC line on the driver side, then I look at my car and its on the passenger side. Then I'm all scratching my head then I read for 95-99 Eclipse TURBO. WEll that explains it all.
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7850, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by eclipse804, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Good writeup! It looks like a lot of trouble moving all that stuff...was it not possible for neuspeed the design the product any other way to avoid such a tight fit?
7851, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by HadesOmega, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Heh well I think that's the reason they discontinued this bar... :P

plus the cheap ebay bars were probably eating up their market for eclipse bars.
7852, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by vegasdsmr, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
welp, i got mines this mornin, and i just spent about an hour and a half installin it. i had to make a new cruise control mounting plate, two of them, so that i could drop it down about an inch and a half. havent taken her for a spin, but wohooo!!! i also yanked out my windshield fluid resevoir that weighed a good 20lbs about 3/4 full of fluid...

good luck to those who havent installed it yet, and if u dont go into hades' pic file, the bolts are specd at 65ft. lbs.

tia
7853, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by My9t5Talon, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
>i had to make a new cruise
>control mounting plate, two of them, so that i could drop it
>down about an inch and a half.


want to make me one (or 2 as the case may be) too???...is there any other way around this???
7854, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by Candude, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
HadesOmega,
Great write up and pics. Thanks!
The instructions that came with the bar are nuts.
Anyway, I have cruise control, so I am not looking forward to the install.
Also, I see from your picks that you already have what looks like a strut bar in place.
If that's what it is, any specific reason for two?
What is the second bar?
Thanks again!
Candude.
7855, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by Fast420A, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Thats a normal strut bar, there are a total of 5 different positions for strut bars on the eclipse. 2 front upper, 1 front lower, 1 rear upper and 1 rear lower.






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7856, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by Candude, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Thanks Fast420A.
How noticable is the difference in driving by adding the second bar?
How recommended is it to have two front upper bars?
Or was it just a matter of getting the first and not bothering to remove it once the neuspeed (2nd bar) was installed?
Candude
7857, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by Fast420A, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
The more support the car has the better.


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7858, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by Candude, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I hear ya.
But doesn't the added stiffness add to already high understeer?
7859, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by HadesOmega, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Yup like I said in my write up the front becomes very responsive so if you jerk the wheel the car will tend to understeer, because your the wheels are breaking traction due to that instant jerk. You just have to be more precise with the wheel I guess.

Took it up to the mountains today, again not in dry weather haha (yeah I'm crazy going thru a mountain path in the rain and fog). The car handled great I was real careful with the wheel though, haha I actually drifted 2 hairpin turn on accident, once into some dirt and debris off road. The bar is great and you can notice a difference. 2 bars mean ultra response baby! :)

That's the beauty of this bar, most of the bars made for ours cars are ok but with this second bar chassis flex in the front is no more! Hehe it ties the chassis tub closer to the center also so it'll make that area more rigid, where it really counts.
7860, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by Fast420A, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I totally agree with you on that, I can EASILY make the front wheels lose traction. It REALLY makes me notice how much I need to get a rear sway bar.

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7861, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by 1TuffRS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I would just like to say WAHOO!! My bar is here My bar is here:) Unfortunately the post office is closed, but I just got the notice in the mail and that has to be it.
7862, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by GorkoRacing, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I would like to second the woohoo as my bar has just arrived. I ran by the house on an "errand" and saw it laying there. Yeah now I get to try and hook that big bastard in tonight. Glad to see you got yours too Toney.
7863, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by mcgyvr, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I guess I got lucky, I didnt have to move/fab anything, jsut removed the two nuts added bar and torqued it back down, it is covering my washer bottle but other than that it fit perfect, and I must say this makes a remarkable difference in feel, feels like a much more solid car, but I also notice how much I need a rear one now.
7864, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by GorkoRacing, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Thanks Hades on the writeup. I love my bar and I can definately feel it. The bar took about 30 min total to put in. The hardest part was getting the bolts off. Had to spray em w/ wd40 several times and use a huge socket wrench. Other than that it was easy and looks great and feels great.
:D
7865, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by Avenger95, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
you guys better keep and eye on your washer fluid cap. i've lost/broken 3 of them so far because of the Nuespeed bar. been to lazy to space it out a little more. good Luck
7866, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by Fast420A, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
>you guys better keep and eye on your washer fluid cap. i've
>lost/broken 3 of them so far because of the Nuespeed bar.
>been to lazy to space it out a little more. good Luck

I was about to mention how mine is. The cap is there but it won't go on because the container top is halfway broken from the bar.


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7867, RE: Neuspeed strut bar install intructions and stuff
Posted by vegasdsmr, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
well, if u guys need an extra winshield fluid resevoir, ill let mine go for the right price (seein how there may be demand for it)..

mint condition, hehe
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