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3863, Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by DarkOne, Nov-03-01 03:24 PM
EVER!!! attempt to install a full set of Energy Suspension's Urethane suspension bushings. Granted, it's one of the best possible things you can do for your hadling, but ugghh.. It SUCKS. Those stock bushings are a MOTHA to get out, even with a 12 TON hydralic press. The new ones aren't exactly easy to put in, either.
Here's my thoughts: If you want it, don't do it. If you do it, pay someone else to install it for you.
Or hope you're a member of Houston 2GNT and can talk all of us into pulling two 10+ hour days ripping your suspension out, pressing out the old bushings, pressing the new ones it, and reassembling everything your car has attached to the wheels.
Not fun. We're still not done. Ugghh..
_____________________________________________ -Dino Yancey Hello me, it's Me Again!

For Mitsubishi Technical Manuals, INCLUDING the 97-99 electrical and service manuals, click HERE: http://www.heavenz-not-0verflowing.com/files/ No MP3 for YOU!
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3864, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by rsjourney95, Nov-03-01 04:33 PM
sorry to hear that Dino, I know its off the topic but when you did your engine rebuild, what type of sealant did you use in your bedplate to block?? I just overhauled my engine and the only problem is its leaking oil right on top of the oil filter, in between the bedplate and now I have to rip everything apart and redo it again! And I've read your manual and it says to use loctite ######?? I used 'the right stuff' in mines cause some punkass stole my mopar RTV that day so I dunno if that made a difference or not....PLEASE, any advice is appreciated..
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3865, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by Fast420A, Nov-04-01 04:15 AM
Is it really that bad? I was going to get them and install them myself. I heard using a torch to remove the old ones helps a lot.
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Audio: Alpine CD Head Unit Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears 3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

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3866, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by iamnotwhoiam, Nov-04-01 10:42 AM
yes you can do it yourself, but you will need to account for much down time.. plus you will need a press or someone to press in the new bushings.. and yes you can burn them out but you will have to hacksaw out the metal ring on the inside of the joint.
-Jason

95 GS
short air ram - custom grill - removed front license plate - custom stereo system - 2 Kenwood 10's powered by Kenwood amp - Hiper Blue Headlights - F&R Upper Strut Bars - 2 fan mod
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3867, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by Stan2gnt, Nov-04-01 09:23 AM
Damn Dino I thought everyone already knew its the most Gawd awful process you can do on your own. I wouldn't think of it. Hell I wouldn't even press in offset front camber bushings much less a whole set. I dont think I could even if I wanted to. I bet it'll be sharp as hell when your done though.
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3868, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by iamnotwhoiam, Nov-04-01 10:40 AM
oh baby... but it rides so good now.. Thanks Dino and Everyone else that helped out on the bushings.. you almost dont need any shocks with these babys in..
a good mod for a 6yr old suspension...
-Jason

95 GS
short air ram - custom grill - removed front license plate - custom stereo system - 2 Kenwood 10's powered by Kenwood amp - Hiper Blue Headlights - F&R Upper Strut Bars - 2 fan mod - Energy Suspension Bushings
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3869, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by DarkOne, Nov-04-01 11:26 AM
Welcome...
Too bad it was your car and not mine ;-)
If ya ever get tired of it, i'll give you my entire suspension for yours!
_____________________________________________ -Dino Yancey Hello me, it's Me Again!

For Mitsubishi Technical Manuals, INCLUDING the 97-99 electrical and service manuals, click HERE: http://www.heavenz-not-0verflowing.com/files/ No MP3 for YOU!
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3870, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by iamnotwhoiam, Nov-04-01 12:09 PM
you silly... :-)
i have noticed that the ride is a little springy, by very slightly.. i like very much. I cant wait to go start driving it hard and of course once i pop on my hrc stage I when i get the money..
-Jason

95 GS
Short-air ram - custom grill - removed front license plate - custom stereo system - 2 Kenwood 10's powered by Kenwood amp - Hiper Blue Headlights - F&R Upper Strut Bars - 2 fan mod - Energy Suspension Bushings
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3871, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by madregal, Nov-05-01 06:53 AM
i had a guy at the mitsu dealer install the front ones for $20.
he didnt install the other pair though.. i think it goes by the engine bay wall.
GS AT: NGK BKR5E-11 Plugs : Accel Wires : AEM Short Stack: GS-T Exhaust : AFX underdrive pulley : RRE Front Lower Bar: Tenzo Front Upper Bar : Tenzo Rear Lower Bar : Tenzo Rear Upper Bar : Energy Suspension Engine Mounts
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3872, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by DarkOne, Nov-05-01 07:31 AM
You're thinking of the motor mount inserts.
This was a set of every bushing in the entire suspension minus two. And it's no fun to do. There's about 50 in all.
_____________________________________________ -Dino Yancey Hello me, it's Me Again!

For Mitsubishi Technical Manuals, INCLUDING the 97-99 electrical and service manuals, click HERE: http://www.heavenz-not-0verflowing.com/files/ No MP3 for YOU!
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3873, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by HadesOmega, Nov-05-01 12:13 PM
Yes have heard the same hehe... I haven't changed mine yet, I think mine will last a while. So how does it handle now?
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3874, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by iamnotwhoiam, Nov-05-01 01:36 PM
so far i havent really done any real testing but so far it feels so much better... a little bouncy but the bushings seem to act like shocks/struts.. and help the ride out considerably.. soon come the new tokico illuminas :-)
if i cant have speed then let there be control.
-Jason

95 GS
Short-air ram - custom grill - removed front license plate - custom stereo system - 2 Kenwood 10's powered by Kenwood amp - Hiper Blue Headlights - F&R Upper Strut Bars - 2 fan mod - Energy Suspension Bushings
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3875, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by Michael_97RS, Nov-05-01 12:16 PM
This MAY be a next winter project for me. This winter is Rear Drum to Disc swap and a bunch of minor stuff to tear apart.
Winter would be good I can tear into it little by little and not get the itch to drive around since the gorund is covered in snow.
But year it's going to be a bitch. May be lookign for weekend volunteers when I do it.
"The fastest draw is when the sword never leaves the scabbard, The strongest way to block, is never to provoke a blow, And the cleanest cut is the one withheld."
Michael J. Kulaga e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com aol IM: MJKulga Website: http://highlander.dsmpower.com/
All Motor Beast in the Making
Injen CAI, 55mm TB, Hooker 4-1 Stepped Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, S-AFC, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, SS Clutch Line, NRG Susp. Motor Mount Ins., FU/RU/RL STBs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730 215/45ZR-17. Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors and Carbon Fiber Pads
To Be Installed: Rear disc brake conversion kit, SS Brake Lines, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors and KVR Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads
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3876, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by koolade9, Nov-06-01 04:17 PM
yeah, I do just about everything to the car....
but I wasn't about to touch that.
had them done by a shop for $260, and had my car back the same day. just PLEASE do yourself a favor and have them put antiseize on every bolt they remove.....trust me! __________________________ ...just my $.02 95 GS

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3877, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by Michael_97RS, Nov-06-01 04:26 PM
Hell sounds like a good price... might have to take a road trip. Hey, Blake... When you get the turbo I drop the car off we work on the turbo then pick her up...
"The fastest draw is when the sword never leaves the scabbard, The strongest way to block, is never to provoke a blow, And the cleanest cut is the one withheld."
Michael J. Kulaga e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com aol IM: MJKulga Website: http://highlander.dsmpower.com/
All Motor Beast in the Making
Injen CAI, 55mm TB, Hooker 4-1 Stepped Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, S-AFC, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, SS Clutch Line, NRG Susp. Motor Mount Ins., FU/RU/RL STBs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730 215/45ZR-17. Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors and Carbon Fiber Pads
To Be Installed: Rear disc brake conversion kit, SS Brake Lines, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors and KVR Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads
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3878, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by iamnotwhoiam, Nov-07-01 12:30 AM
did the bolts back out on you or something.. i guess i better check mine..
-Jason

95 GS
Short-air ram - custom grill - removed front license plate - custom stereo system - 2 Kenwood 10's powered by Kenwood amp - Hiper Blue Headlights - F&R Upper Strut Bars - 2 fan mod - Energy Suspension Bushings
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3879, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by koolade9, Nov-07-01 05:00 AM
they didn't back out, but a few of the bolts were siezed up and I sheared a few of em off when I started taking everything apart. I've come to love that little can of antisieze now.
no problem micheal, I'm on track to have the kit right around late january/early february. the place I had em done at was here in peoria, but there's a shop right by my house in manteno that does good work.
__________________________ ...just my $.02 95 GS

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3880, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by Erik, Nov-07-01 08:26 AM
Hey save yourself a headache and get a great air hammer/chisel. We have a press at the shop but the hammer(a little slower) works just the same. Hope one day I can afford to put some bushings in. Good luck finishing.
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3881, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by iamnotwhoiam, Nov-07-01 12:06 PM
finishing?... its already done.. :-)
-Jason

95 GS
Short-air ram - custom grill - removed front license plate - custom stereo system - 2 Kenwood 10's powered by Kenwood amp - Hiper Blue Headlights - F&R Upper Strut Bars - 2 fan mod - Energy Suspension Bushings
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3882, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by Michael_97RS, Nov-07-01 04:19 PM
Yeah, keep me updated on the kit, and if you get a chance check with the shop by you on what they charge to install. May just do struts and springs at the same time and save the extra dough in alignment etc.
"The fastest draw is when the sword never leaves the scabbard, The strongest way to block, is never to provoke a blow, And the cleanest cut is the one withheld."
Michael J. Kulaga e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com aol IM: MJKulga Website: http://highlander.dsmpower.com/
All Motor Beast in the Making
Injen CAI, 55mm TB, Hooker 4-1 Stepped Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, S-AFC, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, SS Clutch Line, NRG Susp. Motor Mount Ins., FU/RU/RL STBs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730 215/45ZR-17. Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors and Carbon Fiber Pads
To Be Installed: Rear disc brake conversion kit, SS Brake Lines, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors and KVR Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads
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3883, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by koolade9, Nov-08-01 02:45 AM
no problem....
I can do the struts no problem. you still lookin into orderin RM swaybars? I know you liked em:)
we can do those too...
__________________________ ...just my $.02 95 GS

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3884, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by Michael_97RS, Nov-08-01 03:56 AM
Yeah struts and springs aren't a problem. I do want the RM sway bars, I just don't see me having money for all that by Jan/Feb. And I need all the hardware to add arear bar.
Ahhh not enough money for what I want...
"The fastest draw is when the sword never leaves the scabbard, The strongest way to block, is never to provoke a blow, And the cleanest cut is the one withheld."
Michael J. Kulaga e-mail: Michael_97RS@2gntDSM.zzn.com aol IM: MJKulga Website: http://highlander.dsmpower.com/
All Motor Beast in the Making
Injen CAI, 55mm TB, Hooker 4-1 Stepped Header, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, S-AFC, 8.5mm Magnecor Wires, SS Clutch Line, NRG Susp. Motor Mount Ins., FU/RU/RL STBs, TSW Blade 17x7.5, Bridgestone Potenza RE730 215/45ZR-17. Front KVR Cross-Drilled Rotors and Carbon Fiber Pads
To Be Installed: Rear disc brake conversion kit, SS Brake Lines, Rear KVR Cross Drilled Rotors and KVR Carbon Fiber Kevlar Pads
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3885, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by RAIZIN, Nov-09-01 04:25 PM
Jason.. glad they worked out for you. I knew you'd like'em. Sorry it took so long for it to get to you.. although I have no explanation as to why..
Peace.
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3886, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by iamnotwhoiam, Nov-09-01 07:25 PM
heck.. im just glad i got them and got them installed already..
thanks man
-Jason

95 GS
Short-air ram - custom grill - removed front license plate - custom stereo system - 2 Kenwood 10's powered by Kenwood amp - Hiper Blue Headlights - F&R Upper Strut Bars - 2 fan mod - Energy Suspension Bushings
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3887, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by DarkOne, Nov-09-01 07:29 PM
Rick, bro.. I know i'm speaking for Jason here, it's all good.
I really wish ya just coulda made 'em listen.. That install was NO FUN. ;-)
Good experience, tho. I'd enjoy the heck out of it if it were mine!
_____________________________________________ -Dino Yancey Hello me, it's Me Again!

For Mitsubishi Technical Manuals, INCLUDING the 97-99 electrical and service manuals, click HERE: http://www.heavenz-not-0verflowing.com/files/ No MP3 for YOU! Somehow, the Proud Owner of not-your.biz
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3888, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by RAIZIN, Nov-09-01 08:04 PM
Jason.. did you put the shifter ones in too?
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3889, RE: Oh dear god.. Don't EVER... Posted by iamnotwhoiam, Nov-10-01 06:02 AM
yep.. i put those in the first day.. shifts seem more precise and such..
-Jason

95 GS
Short-air ram - custom grill - removed front license plate - custom stereo system - 2 Kenwood 10's powered by Kenwood amp - Hiper Blue Headlights - F&R Upper Strut Bars - 2 fan mod - Energy Suspension Bushings
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