did the search and no imput yet..i'm rebuilding my motor,i have hrc stage 2 with howells long rod kit and i was wondering to any one using it,how good is the phatom grip lsd?i know are car have bad traction problems and i want to get somthing that will help lessen the problem without spending to much.thanks for any help you could give me.

look into exileracing.com they are working on the best LSD retrofit

I want to know too... I think I'm gonna get one. ERT's unit is decent for a clutch-type lsd.. but still too expensive for me.

well i am getting the Retrofit on the GB they had a while back... but guys he's asking how good is the phantom. Honestly sir if you are serious about getting your car into low ET's then i would look past the $120 price tag of the phantom grip. If your willing to spend that much money on go-fast parts why not get the power to the wheels. There are quite a few threads about it in this forum argueing both sides of the spectrum. Best bet is to used the advanced search and look for long threads about it. Also read on the main page the write-up Carlton did about the differences between LSD's similiar to PG and how the clutch type LSD would work.

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thanks for the imput but the question was more towards the guys using the phatom grip lsd.i wanted to know how they like it and if help improve the traction problem any .i'm aware of exile racings retro fit lsd but its more then i can afford at the moment.i also never new that you could get the phatom grip for $120.00..odd i thought it was about $270.00 or more .the retro fit is nice and all but expensive plus you have to send them the core and that more downtime i can't afford.i have spent a good amount of money on parts but thats why the funds are low.so..my question again to the 2gnt guys who have used the phatom grip lsd..how good is it?and did it improve some of the traction probems?thanks again for ur help.

Originally posted by 405TURBO
thanks for the imput but the question was more towards the guys using the phatom grip lsd.i wanted to know how they like it and if help improve the traction problem any .i'm aware of exile racings retro fit lsd but its more then i can afford at the moment.i also never new that you could get the phatom grip for $120.00..odd i thought it was about $270.00 or more .the retro fit is nice and all but expensive plus you have to send them the core and that more downtime i can't afford.i have spent a good amount of money on parts but thats why the funds are low.so..my question again to the 2gnt guys who have used the phatom grip lsd..how good is it?and did it improve some of the traction probems?thanks again for ur help.

I guess you can say it works fine for the pricetag. anything above 350whp, and you'd prolly want the clutch based Retro-Fit or maybe even the torque biasing Quaife diff. There was a lsd by NewSkoolracing (out of business now) that was very similiar in design to the PhantomGrip, that ended up blowing up some peoples trannies, so quite a few people have steered clear of it or anything remotely similiar, hence the previousely stated advice on going to Retro-Fit and also any past debates on the pros/cons to the PG you might find by using the search button. AMI also makes a PG like limited slip diff. look for Talonspeed, and ask him about it. He's the only one I know of on here that has that one. Personally, I ordered the Retro-Fit for my car, and my other one has the Quaife.

Also,
Slicks > lsd

any lsd is better than no LSD :P if it were up to me I'd put an lsd in every FF production car or every car for that matter. It makes the car handle much nicer. oh yeah I got the old new skool lsd and it worx great for me.

ya, i have the pg, and it didi change the amoutn of torque steer the car had. traction.. prolly. but i had too much hp to even think of traction even with an lsd. the problem isnt the lsd, its the fact that it puts alot of strain on the diff gears.

$120? where? what?