Originally posted by Vigo
bigger brakes are really only great for someone who wants their street car to FEEL better, or for those of us who actually race the cars. believe me, on hoosiers or even victoracers stock brakes on wannabe cars like base model eclipses (no offense, but most have 9 inch front discs and tiny rear drums) have a HARD time keeping up with the tires. and even if they can lock them, theres the problem of heat buildup. heat eventually leads to fade, and the harder your brakes have to work, the more heat they create. too much heat can move your pad out of its operating temp range or transfer too much heat into the fluid and boil it. either way you're off in a ditch somewhere. so basically what you say is right for the guy who just drives on the street and doesnt have SUPER sticky tires or isnt on the brakes ALL the time because they are ALWAYS going too fast :P but even for me on the street it makes a nice difference. i have 11" vented disc brakes front and rear on the dynasty compared to my Avenger which has the stock tiny brakes in the front(sam as all eclipses short of GSX iirc) and the rear discs and i dont have to push nearly as hard on the dynastys brakes to slow down the same amount, and that just makes me more comfortable. plus itll look good under bigger wheels :) 1993 Dodge Dynasty LE 3.3 Auto, 95k, Stock. 16.2@84mph :D

...um...bullshit, the stock '97 BASE TALON brakes SUCK ASS. You couldn't ever just resurface the rotors, they always had to be replaced, Fade was ass and felt like sponges after 2 HARD brakes, it NEVER happened in my civic with Hawk pads and powerslot rotors, so the upgrade was logical,

BTW CK FADE is a HUGE part of braking, its the ability to brake hard repeatedly. If I wanted, I could warp the stock rotors after break in ithout any trouble, and it's something that shouldn't be so easy to do