All the opinions on tirerack say they have good traction but suck ass at life..i heard just the opposite. what do you guys think


Jon

1997 Eclipse RS

14.21@101mph 10/4/02

I don't have any personal experience with them, but friends with em say they aren't too bad traction wise. As for life though, don't drive em with shitty camber, you'll be buying new tires every two months.

97 Eclipse GS
Mods: AEM CAI, OBX muffler, Goldline springs, FU/RU STBs, Platinum plugs, Ingalls rear camber kit, AFX UDP

I will never buy another Kuhmo again. They suck ass in the water and snow, and they are lasting TOO long in my opinion. We have been trying to wear them down so we can replace them, but they just won't die! I have yokos on my eclipse, I won't buy another brand of tire again.

jason, are you feeding your tires and wheels to your eclipse again? i haven't had any experience with the cheapo's but i do like my 712's. i'm from teh south too so the snow scares me but rain seems fine.
later

I have the Kumho Ecsta Supras. They work fine with me. My camber was a bit off but I didn't wear it down that bad. Seems to work fine in rain too. So far so good.

I liked my Kumho's about a year ago, but the fronts are starting to wear down pretty badly. But I also drive my car pretty aggressively, especially around the turns beggin to burn up the tires.

I've had really no problems with the tires. They've actually performed very nicely in the rain for me, but are beyond pathetic in the snow. I think they'd wear pretty nicely if you didn't run them badly. I've been very bad about tire rotation, meaning never, but given that, the rears are still in great shape.

when i had my ecsta supras on my 18's I loved them. I never drove them aggresively in the rain, so I can't comment there.. but yea.. don't even bother driving in snow. x( Getting out and walking would be faster and safer.

right now i'm on bald drag radials and 14" tires that are showing threads. Trust me, nothing is worse on snow, and i dont really care anyway..my car is a trailer queen now.


Jon

1997 Eclipse RS

14.21@101mph 10/4/02

I have kuhmo ecsta supras on my 17's but i only drive on them in the summer. Traction was great for handling - well better than my bald 14's heh - they do seem a little shitty in the rain.

They've never seen snow so I couldn't tell ya.

Good luck either way :)

black 97 eclipse rs a/t
nakayama cai
cat-back exhaust
final drive gears
afx udp

They suck in the rain and snow. tread life is ok as long as the chamber is correct and traction is decent but not great. just my $.02

i have had those on my 17s for two years now or even more, they grab hard on dry and last a lifetime, still got about 60-70% thread, to me they look new. Keep on like this and i will have them for 2 more years.
rain is ok, just take it easy.
no snow where i live though.

Well, just bought 'em. Hopefully i made the right decision.
Thanks a lot guys.


Jon

1997 Eclipse RS

14.21@101mph 10/4/02

I heard nothin but good things about the Kumho Ecsta Supra 712. Why would you guys drive w/em in the snow, just use them for the summer and spring time then put your stock wheels on during the winter!:+

they suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well honeestly it depends on your point of reference. Compared to the tires I've had they suck big time (Bridgestone S-02s, RE71s, Yok AVS Intermediates, Dunlop SP8000, Pir P zeros). If you think goodyears RSAs or Yok Parada's are good you probably will find the 712's good. I just put a set of the new Kumho MXs on the GTI, these fuckers are the real deal and inexpensive (not 712 inexpensive). Oh and I'm only speaking of traction, could care less about wear.

i got them in and put them on. they rub like hell, what gives?


Jon

1997 Eclipse RS

14.21@101mph 10/4/02