The perches are removed from what i remember. I have 4 lil metel scraps taht came off the KYB GR-2's. The front is stock height and the rear is droppped a tad. I thought it was an issue with settling the springs, but i now see that is not an issue with coil overs :P hehe...I'll take pics in the AM and have em posted tomorrow.....it would be nice to get this beyatch lowered so i can ride pimp like the rest ;)