I am asking this in reference to those of you who have taken delivery of the MS. I have had a couple on order for nearly 3 months and still await delivery. This post is not to start a flame war, so please keep it on topic! If it starts to go elsewhere I will ask that this be removed immediately. I am clearly looking for an average on how long you may have had to sit in suspense. Lee has done alot to expand the performance envelope for us, I fully appreciate his and the ones contributing to the efforts, yet some still can not take advantage of this set-up.

Originally posted by people who bought a MS
Brian Driggs - November 25th, 2004.
White97RS - March 18th 2005
Joe McClary - Ordered mine on 12/04/04
XtremeRS - 2/19/05 payment sent
Rxr_Eclipse - January 12, 2005
EvuLFleA - Feb 20, 2005
Whoddat1 - Dec 16th, 2004
Ryan_Hes - Dec 24th, 2004
CarbonFiberRST - Late Dec 2004
corsagsbo - Jan 2005
HiOnPSI - Feb 18th, 2005
ready4dis - January 28th, 2005
Eclipse2nr - Late 2004

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know me as santiago
boosted 420a and ej2o..(my 2liter v8 eaters)

You should just ask Lee. He's on AIM all the time and you can e-mail him. I do know that he's been waiting on parts for a long time and that he's real busy trying to furthur develope the "-extra" code.

Thanks Doug. I have been speaking with him direct and know the situation/situations. For specific reasons I choose not to elaborate on, have now decided it is best to ask those who have one.


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know me as santiago
boosted 420a and ej2o..(my 2liter v8 eaters)

I am in the same boat as you, paid for the MS late january and have yet to recieve it. I emailed him about a month ago. No response. I emailed him on sunday. No response. I emailed him on tuesday. No response. A bit discouraging. Although I have not seen him post on here recently either so mabey he is busy building them??? Any response would be nice.

He is in the process of moving. He was also waiting on cases, last i heard. Give it time. Lee has a wife and newborn daughter, and is also hunting for a job. Cut the limey brit some slack.

I've been waiting just as long as any of you and you don't see me crying.

I don't think responding to my email is an unreasonable request. I am really in no hurry, my engine kit won't be here for god knows how long (comming from howell automotive), but it would be nice to get some sort of a response to my emails. Just something saying "Hey I am still waiting on parts, your stuff will be done when I get them finished eta unknown".

Originally posted by DarkOne
He is in the process of moving. He was also waiting on cases, last i heard. Give it time. Lee has a wife and newborn daughter, and is also hunting for a job. Cut the limey brit some slack. I've been waiting just as long as any of you and you don't see me crying.

I hear ya Dino. I know the situation and can relate to how it is. Hell, I've been there before. Newborn, moving, and in between jobs at one time also. In my position I see it different because if I wasn't able to deliver products within a 3 month period of time, it would be my ass with Chrysler or GM. I am "conditioned" you could say to know what to expect, yet make all attempts to be an understanding and leniant person.

Thank you for confirming on the timeframe, this is all I'm looking for. I am in no way looking to flame the guy.


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know me as santiago
boosted 420a and ej2o..(my 2liter v8 eaters)

I've been waiting four months. Lee has told me numerous times that he would be shipping it to me ASAP. Ordinarily, I'd be pissed, but the man has been out of work for some time, is moving, and has a newborn. Considering he's pretty much the only reason this technology exists for us, freeing us from exorbitantly priced, not-specifically-inteded-for-2GNT, AEM products and the now practically useless SAFC, he can have all the time he needs. However, if it's not here in two weeks, I'm gonna yank out my MSnS harness and whip him with it. ;) Haha.

I hear ya on the communications thing, but sometimes you have to have faith.

I talked with Lee this week. As dino said he has been tied up moving and he is currently waiting for cases. there are 8 units ready to roll as soon as he can get the cases and mail them. ETA will be in April, they should be in our hands by mid april.

To make your wait easier....just think everyday that lee toys with his MS may be another day he comes up with another idea. that idea may end up in your MS that others may not have yet....!

Ok now heres the raw truth. unless you have your harness in the car nad ready to plugf the MS in, you have no room to be mad because you yourself are behind as well. :)

All good things take time

Terry

This is one of the reasons I decided to buy Matt's 034 EIC setup. I knew Lee was falling behind on orders and I didn't want to be stuck without a good fuel managment system for boogers rebirth. I'm sure he'll get them out, it'll just take time :thumbsup

Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
I talked with Lee this week. As dino said he has been tied up moving and he is currently waiting for cases. there are 8 units ready to roll as soon as he can get the cases and mail them. ETA will be in April, they should be in our hands by mid april. To make your wait easier....just think everyday that lee toys with his MS may be another day he comes up with another idea. that idea may end up in your MS that others may not have yet....! Ok now heres the raw truth. unless you have your harness in the car nad ready to plugf the MS in, you have no room to be mad because you yourself are behind as well. :) All good things take time Terry

I wonder if i'm one of the 8 units... :)


Jon

1997 Eclipse RS
1998 Dodge Dakota Sport
12.671 @ 111.660 1.586 60' 5/28/04

www.haiokuracing.com

shaun> i'm sayin', bro!

Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Ok now heres the raw truth. unless you have your harness in the car nad ready to plugf the MS in, you have no room to be mad because you yourself are behind as well. :) All good things take time Terry

Indeed they do, but I'm also hoping I'm one of the eight lucky stiffs who get theirs here in the next week or so. I happen to have the harness ran and will be picking up my own DB37 connector before hand, so I'll have to do is plug it in and play with it.

C'mon Slick! Mush! Mush! :p

Originally posted by DarkOne
Cut the limey brit some slack.

i laughed :)

alluminium anyone?

I am also waiting. I purchased mine on December 24th... So I'm thinking I am one of the 8. :D Hopefully he gets them out soon, I am just about ready to get this new engine in.

Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by DarkOne Cut the limey brit some slack.

i laughed :) alluminium anyone?

yeah i have an alluminium bonnet and boot on my car, but crappy tyres.
i really love the colour.

I hope I am one of the 8 too! paid sometime between x-mas and newyears.

Bump. Lee? Communication makes just about all problems go away. I don't know what's up at home, but as long as you take care of your 2GNT brothers and don't just vanish, you will still go down as a hero on this site. :thumbsup

I havn't seen him online in a while....Im sure he's busy -- but I would like for him to communicate with us here or something...I need my MS unit soon...

Yeah, it's race season and stuff.....my car can't move w/o it :(

Just got a text message from Lee a minute ago. He asked me to call him this evening. I will keep everyone updated. He says he's just having some trouble with life in general. He is not going to let us down.

More info as I get it. I just wanted to update that I heard from him, so that others would know he's not bailing on us.

That is all for now.

EDIT:
Another message...

Lee just got his phone turned on this week and has no cell service at home. He tried calling me, but does not have long distance on the phone. Probably why it rang and no one was there at my end.

He can't get online either yet. Access issues.

"Everyone will be taken care of. I'm real down right now..." - Lee*

I think it goes without saying we might remain cool for a little while longer and see how this plays out. My faith in Lee has been restored for the time being.

Again, I will update after I speak with him this evening. More to come.


*I wonder if his best friend hooked up with his wife or something? That can really take a man's world and turn it upside down, you know. :P (cheap shots are good shots) }(

Originally posted by DR1665
*I wonder if his best friend hooked up with his wife or something?

As IF something like that would happen ??? :P

again..... :P

id just like to say that cheap shots are for FUCKING PANSY BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is all.

Originally posted by turbo8u
id just like to say that cheap shots are for FUCKING PANSY BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all.

Well, it's hard to reach out and deck someone over the internet, Josh. }( Please, disregard my snappy little joke and stay on topic. There are a lot of people waiting for an MS and they need this thread to stay legit.

Thank you.

I talk to Lee quite often and from the time Ive met him up until now I have learned Lee is not one screw someone, and I realize all of you know this. I can tell you inbetween busting his balls at a local shop making what funds he can, moving, and still getting some family time, he is working them English fingers to the bone on the MS's. I have no room to complain because I have mine, but like somebody said. yours is prolly gonna have something mine doesnt.

So yeah, just give the brotha some time, he will come through.

My 2 cents

nm

Originally posted by DR1665
*I wonder if his best friend hooked up with his wife or something? That can really take a man's world and turn it upside down, you know. :P (cheap shots are good shots) }(

Being old school rocks.. you know what the hell is going on. :-)

-Tahleel

I tried calling Lee tonight, but condsidering how AZ is on Pacific time right now, by the time I got home and parked, it was after 10pm Lee's time. I asked his wife to have him text me when he can talk so we can catch up on things and I can update everyone here.

That is all.

;) Old School. Someday I'll be Old's Cool too. :thumbsup

One of my friends said he talked to him and he said that mine should go out this weekend...

Originally posted by tahleel
Being old school rocks.. you know what the hell is going on. :-) -Tahleel

you don't have to be old school, you just have to had to have gone to the pits often back when they were around... I witnessed the drama unfold there.

Im excited, just hope he got my email on changing the shipping address. An i hope it gets here before i have my car ready, cause i dont think i will be to good on low impedence 550s. Anyone know how much boost can be run on the stockers with no fuel management, just in case?

on the stock 235cc injectors???
brad at hahn recommended really no more than 8psi with their cartech unit and then its pretty maxed out with fuel pressure closing in on 100psi

ok thanks. just planning for the worst. hopefully itll be here though. :)

Any updates???

talked to his wife tonight and lee is building some tomorrow

Glad hes doin better, i dont know him personally but i talked to him alot online before he moved. He better get on those MS :)

Yeah, my turbo + intercooler are here, but I can't install until i have the MS for my fuel management :P. (im)patiently waiting.

so does this mean i'm getting one soon?

um.... why dont people just build your own like i did? its not fucking rocket science. sucks how long you guys wait for these things.

plus, if you had ordered it from glensgarage.com you would prolly have have had it for 3 months now.

Glen's Garage is still trying to catch up on orders they received in January.

John you told me you got yours from Lee when i saw you in Orland Park?

Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
John you told me you got yours from Lee when i saw you in Orland Park?

no, i built my own. lee gave me some base maps to work with.

Originally posted by grain
um.... why dont people just build your own like i did? its not fucking rocket science. sucks how long you guys wait for these things. plus, if you had ordered it from glensgarage.com you would prolly have have had it for 3 months now.

Well, I didn't realize the wait would be this long or I would have built it myself, just figured he'd have it all setup and ready to go for me so I didn't have to mess with it to make it specific to my car (he preloads and prechecks everything). I'm fully capable for building my own, but just didn't want to waste the time or have to worry about troubleshooting if something wasn't to work.

(Originally posted by Ready4Dis) Well, I didn't realize the wait would be this long or I would have built it myself, just figured he'd have it all setup and ready to go for me so I didn't have to mess with it to make it specific to my car (he preloads and prechecks everything). I'm fully capable for building my own, but just didn't want to waste the time or have to worry about troubleshooting if something wasn't to work.



Same here. When I ordered if from Lee he said it would take him about 2 weeks to get it to me. It's been almost 5 months now.

I guess I will have to build my own, which I had plained on doing anyway for a spare. But I was going to wait until I got more familiar with the MS.

Update???

BUMP.....UPDATES PLEAS EANYONE IM DESPERATE....im bout to order a back up off DIYautotune.com. Just need some basemaps for 550cc injectors, t3/t04e 50 trim runnin around 17-20 lbs of boost and at 7 lbs of boost.

Originally posted by White97rs
BUMP.....UPDATES PLEAS EANYONE IM DESPERATE....im bout to order a back up off DIYautotune.com. Just need some basemaps for 550cc injectors, t3/t04e 50 trim runnin around 17-20 lbs of boost and at 7 lbs of boost.

theres no hope for you, you should definatly buy a kit and build your own :P

Originally posted by GSGoinFast

Originally posted by White97rs BUMP.....UPDATES PLEAS EANYONE IM DESPERATE....im bout to order a back up off DIYautotune.com. Just need some basemaps for 550cc injectors, t3/t04e 50 trim runnin around 17-20 lbs of boost and at 7 lbs of boost.

theres no hope for you, you should definatly buy a kit and build your own :P

Still no return contact and the paypal money has not been reimbursed. There are at least 8 people I know of waiting on these kits from Lee and have not heard anything back within the past 3 weeks. If someone was to live on the street or under a rock for crying out loud, a library is accessible and allows internet usage. No follow up at all is what is suspect and the main dillema.

Lee, please contact me immediately, you have my office and email address info.



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know me as santiago
boosted 420a and ej2o..(my 2liter v8 eaters)

nm

Spoke with Lee last night on the phone.

He is sick as a dog and has been sitting on the shitter with explosive diareha for the last three days, inserting his through-hole components into PCBs for solder when he is in an evironment suitable for soldering. On top of this, after running 24psi and a 75 shot through an SSAutochrome turbo for over a year, he finally incited the compressor housing to explode, sending shrapnel through the firewall and into his legs, leaving him nearly crippled.

Well, that's not all entirely true, but he has been sick and his SSAC turbo did explode, but he's just been very busy lately. His cell phone is old, worn out, and gets no signal at his home, where he has no long distance set up on his land line. Speaking of land lines, he is only sporting a 28k dial-up right now. He has also been working at a friend's shop lately to make ends meet, so he has had a lot of little stuff back up on him.

Now, I'm not posting this information to show that Lee and I are incahoots or to justify his lack of communication with each of his customers, however I thought I would share that he said to let everyone know that he apologizes for the delays and that he will come through on every order that was made.

He told me he will be shipping Terry, Joe and my units this week and that all the rest are pretty much complete in terms of parts, but that he has a couple odds and ends to install or modify for different customers. Terry, Joe and I have been waiting the longest at this point, but Lee will get to everyone as fast as he can without affecting the quality of the product.

So often, people invest a large sum of money into a part or idea on a site like this and the person on the other end simply blows it on liquor and cheap whores and is never seen again. This is not going to be the case this time. We are dealing with someone who is legit and doing what he can to deliver on his promises. I am not worried about losing my money. I will get my MSnS. I'm pretty sure you will too. We're all just going to have to wait for them.

That is all.

Myself I'm probably one of the last people to buy a kit from Lee. I bought mine around the end of February. I don't care how long it takes Lee to get all the kits out, I have a temporary fuel setup here to use until the MSnS gets here. Just as long as he gets the kits out is what I care about. All I'm afraid of is losing my money and not getting anything. As long as it gets here, I'll be happy.

Originally posted by DR1665
Spoke with Lee last night on the phone. He is sick as a dog and has been sitting on the shitter with explosive diareha for the last three days, inserting his through-hole components into PCBs for solder when he is in an evironment suitable for soldering. On top of this, after running 24psi and a 75 shot through an SSAutochrome turbo for over a year, he finally incited the compressor housing to explode, sending shrapnel through the firewall and into his legs, leaving him nearly crippled. Well, that's not all entirely true, but he has been sick and his SSAC turbo did explode, but he's just been very busy lately. His cell phone is old, worn out, and gets no signal at his home, where he has no long distance set up on his land line. Speaking of land lines, he is only sporting a 28k dial-up right now. He has also been working at a friend's shop lately to make ends meet, so he has had a lot of little stuff back up on him. Now, I'm not posting this information to show that Lee and I are incahoots or to justify his lack of communication with each of his customers, however I thought I would share that he said to let everyone know that he apologizes for the delays and that he will come through on every order that was made. He told me he will be shipping Terry, Joe and my units this week and that all the rest are pretty much complete in terms of parts, but that he has a couple odds and ends to install or modify for different customers. Terry, Joe and I have been waiting the longest at this point, but Lee will get to everyone as fast as he can without affecting the quality of the product. So often, people invest a large sum of money into a part or idea on a site like this and the person on the other end simply blows it on liquor and cheap whores and is never seen again. This is not going to be the case this time. We are dealing with someone who is legit and doing what he can to deliver on his promises. I am not worried about losing my money. I will get my MSnS. I'm pretty sure you will too. We're all just going to have to wait for them. That is all.

hmm
So HE DOES have internet access. I mean this is pretty much a text driven website so that is an irrelevant fact. The fact that his turbo exploded or that he is working at a shop is 100% irrelevant to our situation and shouldnt even be in this conversation.

I have long distance and dont mind using it. He has MY megasquirt that I shipped to him to repair. He has nothing to build on mine, No parts to order, No cases to manufacture. I sent it to him mid february and dont want it to *poof* dissapear or get shipped to anyone else. PM me his number so I can speak with him in person. I have refrained from posting in this thread till now, but I have grown weary and we've seen this too many times to count.
While you driggs may vouch for him, I do not take that as fact or reassurance, especially with your actions of late regarding other members on this board. All I want is MY megasquirt back. Number?
thanks.

Heres a thought: Why doesnt everyone who ordered up a MEGASQUIRT from MrSlick post up their order date so we can figure out who the priorities should be. Out of the 8 or so people who have ordered I think it should be prioritized by who ordered 1st. Not on hearsay.

Originally posted by djtrickee
Heres a thought: Why doesnt everyone who ordered up a MEGASQUIRT from MrSlick post up their order date so we can figure out who the priorities should be. Out of the 8 or so people who have ordered I think it should be prioritized by who ordered 1st. Not on hearsay.

Brian Driggs - November 25th, 2004.

March 18th 2005, although i filed with paypal to get my money back, and if no reply from the seller by the 6th of may my money will hopefully be returned.

Joe McClary - Ordered mine on 12/04/04.

Originally posted by White97rs
March 18th 2005, although i filed with paypal to get my money back, and if no reply from the seller by the 6th of may my money will hopefully be returned.

You didn't even wait two months and you filed a claim? Weaksauce.

In retrospect, I could more than likely build this myself, being an electronics automation technician, but I don't really want to risk it with my engine. I'm probably very rusty... }(

Originally posted by DR1665

Originally posted by White97rs March 18th 2005, although i filed with paypal to get my money back, and if no reply from the seller by the 6th of may my money will hopefully be returned.

You didn't even wait two months and you filed a claim? Weaksauce. In retrospect, I could more than likely build this myself, being an electronics automation technician, but I don't really want to risk it with my engine. I'm probably very rusty... }(

I woul dhave waited longer but my car will be ready for it in a month....and ill be runnin 550s so i doubt it woudl run at all.

2/19/05 payment sent. Verified time frame of 2-4 weeks by Lee himself. I don't care about hearing a bunch of excuses..When you have people's money for extended periods of time, its HIS responsibility to keep people updated, and and if the quoted time frame for completion is not met, then let the buyer know this. I had Lee on AIM about 3 weeks ago, and he said i would have it the next week, or the one after that. I also asked If he could refund my money, just so i could get this project going faster so I could get the car running again..He says, and I qoute- "well it would be a lot easier to send you a MS instead. All my money is tied up in parts right now". Um yeah, ok..So i want to return a product at a store, and the clerk says, "well sorry sir, we cant refund your money because the money is tied up in stock". Sorry, that's just bad business.

As for the internet thing, I can think of about 3 or 4 places right off the top of my head that have broadband internet connections. It's just flat out bad buisness procedure, and ethic to leave people in the dark. He has 340.00 bucks of my money, and so far thats only bought a bunch of excuses :rolleyes Anyway, thanks for the update Brian...I *should* be saying, "thanks for the update LEE". Maybe i'm being a bit to harsh here, but i've been working in the small business field for 10+ years now, and keeping customers informed,taken care of, and being HONEST with them, when things go wrong, is of utmost importance..

Brian, I would have taken some sort of action a long time ago(leagal/paypal, ect), but that's just me. It's been almost 6 MONTHS FOR YOU MAN!! That is just unacceptable in my book. The old "waiting on parts" line is BS..I can get full kits in only days..If the place you get your parts from, is out of stock for a while, then go somewhere else to get them, or INFORM your customer that there will be a delay.

At this point, all we can do is have faith in LEE that he comes though. If not, then off to the leagal bullshit i go.. :rolleyes

just got an email from him asking to remove my paypal complaint, and my MS would be shipped out hopefully early next week. The complaitn will be removed when i have confirmation of shipment. :wary

I ordered mine in late January as stated above. The reason that I ordered from Lee instead of building my own was that he offered lots of support when you buy from him. I'm going to be quite upset if white97rs gets his MS before I get mine. I did order quite some time before he did. I also just sent him an email making sure he has my correct shipping address.

Order mind 2/20/05 I believe.

Filed for a chargeback with AMEX last night.

mine was ordered and payed for on the 17th of december, looks like i'm third in that list, hopefully it will ship in that 1st batch.

Brian Driggs - November 25th, 2004.
White97RS - March 18th 2005
Joe McClary - Ordered mine on 12/04/04
XtremeRS - 2/19/05 payment sent
Rxr_Eclipse - January 2005
EvuLFleA - Feb 20, 2005
Whodatt1 - Dec 17th 2004

(3)units ordered and paid for on 12/22/04.


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know me as santiago
boosted 420a and ej2o..(my 2liter v8 eaters)

I have retired from the giving my money away buisness...

I have a fun game we can play. Lets add up all the money that Lee has accepted as payment from us and has shown nothing to us in return for.

$300 unaccounted for dollars from me.

EDIT: Just to put this in perspective.

$285 from me.

i have been reluctantly staying out of this because i have not bought anything from this guy, but i cannot bite my tounge any more.

/Rant on/

The only thing i HATE about this sight is how so many people are so idioticly complacent to sit back and make stupid ass fucking excuses for cock-hats who try to sell stuff en-mass and then bend thier "customers" over by not building it/sending it/communicating about it.
THERE IS NO FUCKING EXCUSE FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESSMANSHIP!

if i could reach thru this fucking computer i would strangle the life out of every single last motherfucker who says "he's been busy", "he was hurt in a car accident", "his turbo blew up", "he lost his job, his cat died and his girlfriend became a dyke", "don't worry, hes a nice guy, he'll come thru"
BULLSHIT!!!! period.
nobody who has a set of man-nuts should even think about making excuses for and condoneing the taking of other peoples money for products that do not get produced in a reasonable time frame.
And im sorry to bust some of your bubbles but a reasonable time frame for mailing out a product after you have accepted the money is NO MORE THAN ONE WEEK.
i realize these units were mostly "built to order", but even at that, to accept the money for a product you know you can't get done in a reasonable time is illicet and wrong! And to not even communicate with your customers at all other than the chicken shit way of gong thru someone else to make a general excuse for you is just lame and worthy of a collosal beat-down!

Tim, do you have any open transactions with Lee? No, you said so yourself. Although I believe you are right, you don't have any business posting in this thread, so please continue to bite your tongue. From now on, if anyone posts in here who isn't waiting on something from Lee, I will delete your post. Not only will further "rants" cause this already lengthy thread take longer to load on my shitty dialup connection, "rants" are counter-productive to the current situation, a waste of space, and destructive to the overall positive environment on this board.

I ordered mine on Feb. 18th, 2005.
I want my damn MS. I was told 3-4 weeks. twice.

Jon

1997 Eclipse RS
1998 Dodge Dakota Sport
12.671 @ 111.660 1.586 60' 5/28/04

www.haiokuracing.com

shaun> i'm sayin', bro!

I was told the same thing. 2-3 week due to he ran out of parts. That was back in January. So 12 Weeks or so later still waiting. I sent him an email a couple of day's ago. No response.

Payment sent January 28th.

Still have not heard back from him. This is starting to feel like pushing420A all over again. If he only has like 8 units and I'm behind the first 8 he makes, well then that puts me WAY back on the list of people who will get one of those first 8 he has. Fuck I hate just throwing $300 away like this. If you have it done how fucking hard is it to put it in the mail? *rant*

I still can't get over how he was "Last Seen On March 10, 2005" yet he has emailed someone who purchased to tell them to remove their complaint, and he has posted on the megasquirt forum sometime late in march also but he chooses not to come back here where he owes people. This is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo shady it is unbeleivable...

Agreed. It is quite obvious that he used the money that we have sent him to do something other than build the MS's for us all. Mabey he used the money to 'move', as was indicated earlier. Or mabey he just does not feel like putting them together, or mabey he just ripped us off. Either way this should likely go in the 'bad guys' section at this point. I hate to be a squeeky wheel (since he has my money and I have nothing, and it looks like I will never get a MS from him), but $300 is alot of money. And if you feel like flaming me for being the squeeky wheel go ahead, infact while your defending him, would you please send me my $300 back.

Send money order to:
Kevin Johnston
PO Box 881
Sandpoint ID 83864

Edit Im sending this message to him once a day till I get a response.

I still have not heard from you Lee, do you have my MS done yet? If so Please send it to

kevin johston
po box 881
sandpoint id 83864

Or please return my money to the same address in the form of a Money Order.
Thanks
KJ

sorry for your shitty luck, if he doesnt reply by the end of the day paypal returns my money to me. Im the one he told to remove the complaint, but that didnt happen cause i had no shipping confirmation. Well My MS is in the mail from RSautosport. I suggest all of you to go his way. Hes very helpful, i got the 420A/neon package and the 3 BAR map for 299 shipped. Just mad it doesnt come with any base maps but i have already talked with people on MSEFI.com and they have been helpful. I Ordered from RSautosport on the 26th of April and it was shipped out today. Like i said i suggest him to all of you in this situation. www.RSautosport.com his name is rodney and he only uses paypal so you can be refunded if there is no delivery.

Yeah, Rodney at RS-Autosport is the man. I suggest that everyone order from him. He was the first to specialize in 420A MegaSquirts for the Neon (same engine). He ships within a couple of days and always has his shit in stock. I've actually had him overnight stuff to me. Also, his wiring harness kits are the SHIT! Contact me if you need a base map.

Originally posted by dougie2
Rodney at RS-Autosport ... his wiring harness kits are the SHIT!

I concur. Very substantial. Although, he did take about a month and a half to get me two harness kits with conectors, IAC and CLTs, the harness kit is bad ass. I've got mine installed now and have plenty of slack/extra wire.

I'm still holding out for Lee. :shrug

Ehh this sucks...paypal can only file a claim within 45 days of payment..

I still stand by Lee. Yeah, the communication level has left much to be desired and it probably should not have taken this long, but I think he has too much invested in 2GNT MSnS to just fuck it all up by robbing everyone. Looks like mine is on the way.

Dear BRIAN DRIGGS,

This ship notification is being sent to you by the U.S. Postal Service® at the request of LEE JOHNSTON.

A package with a Click-N-Ship® label created on usps.com containing the following information is scheduled to be shipped on 05/04/2005.

okay, so you're getting yours, but what about mine?
Help a brother out, i need this damn car on the road.

Jon

1997 Eclipse RS
1998 Dodge Dakota Sport
12.671 @ 111.660 1.586 60' 5/28/04

www.haiokuracing.com

shaun> i'm sayin', bro!

Wow, we are getting somewhere :)

Originally posted by DR1665
I still stand by Lee. Yeah, the communication level has left much to be desired and it probably should not have taken this long, but I think he has too much invested in 2GNT MSnS to just fuck it all up by robbing everyone. Looks like mine is on the way.

Dear BRIAN DRIGGS, This ship notification is being sent to you by the U.S. Postal Service® at the request of LEE JOHNSTON. A package with a Click-N-Ship® label created on usps.com containing the following information is scheduled to be shipped on 05/04/2005.

You have been waiting longer than I so its only right you get yours first. At least you get some sort of contact from this guy. The extent of my contact with lee was me asking how much he wanted to deliver the goods. Sent money, no more contact. Shitty deal indeed.

Originally posted by DR1665

Dear BRIAN DRIGGS, This ship notification is being sent to you by the U.S. Postal Service® at the request of LEE JOHNSTON. A package with a Click-N-Ship® label created on usps.com containing the following information is scheduled to be shipped on 05/04/2005.

usps.com? Looks like his internet connection works just fine. :wary

Next time you speak with him, could you please tell him to at least log onto this post and let us know he's still working on these things, otherwise I'm going to have to call visa and retract my payment and order it from someone who can actually deliver a product in which i've paid for.

Originally posted by Ready4Dis
Next time you speak with him, could you please tell him to at least log onto this post and let us know he's still working on these things,

Why do you think I've been coming into this thread and sharing everything he's told me thus far? He says he's still working on them and everyone that paid for one will get one. He told me that. I'm telling you he told me that. I understand the concern that HE isn't telling you that, but it's something. I have not spoken with him at any time where I did not confirm that he is still going to fill all his orders. He told me he would build and ship my MS. He has built it. He is shipping it. He will get yours too.

Originally posted by dougie2
Yeah, Rodney at RS-Autosport is the man. I suggest that everyone order from him. He was the first to specialize in 420A MegaSquirts for the Neon (same engine). He ships within a couple of days and always has his shit in stock. I've actually had him overnight stuff to me. Also, his wiring harness kits are the SHIT! Contact me if you need a base map.

Actually if you ask him any questions about the 420a Ms he will tell you to ask LEE since LEE IS MAKING THEM FOR HIM!

At least someone is getting his......i still have no word from LEE

He has internet access somehow. He responded to a PayPal dispute.

Reason for Dispute:
Non-Receipt
Chargeback Amount:
$340.00 USD
Chargeback Date:
Apr. 29, 2005
Status:
Reviewing Seller's Response
Status Details:
We are reviewing this chargeback and will contact you if we require additional information. No further action is required by you at this time.

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Driggs - Anyone can send a click-n-ship notification. That means squat. When you get your MS then you can talk.

http://www.neons.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=202509

Same thing ^^. The dude collected cash, ran, then people threatened chargeback around day 30-35 of the 45 day PayPal dispute period so the guy sent out USPS click-n-ship notifications. Just because someone prints a USPS label doesn't mean they will be bringing anything to the post office.

Originally posted by EvuLFleA
Driggs - Anyone can send a click-n-ship notification. That means squat. When you get your MS then you can talk. ... Just because someone prints a USPS label doesn't mean they will be bringing anything to the post office.

This is true, but as I have said, I have faith that Lee will come through. Shit, I waited 6 months for pistons, I can wait that long for a "stand alone." I got a text from Lee last night (wasn't expecting it) saying it shipped yesterday. I'm not really worried about it. Maybe I'll check the tracking number or whatever tonight. In the past, click and ship tracking numbers aren't even active by the time I received the package, so...

I'll be sure to let everyone know when it arrives. :thumbsup

Originally posted by people who bought a MS Brian Driggs - November 25th, 2004. White97RS - March 18th 2005 Joe McClary - Ordered mine on 12/04/04 XtremeRS - 2/19/05 payment sent Rxr_Eclipse - January 12, 2005 EvuLFleA - Feb 20, 2005 Whoddat1 - Dec 16th, 2004 Ryan_Hes - Dec 24th, 2004 CarbonFiberRST - Late Dec 2004 corsagsbo - Jan 2005 HiOnPSI - Feb 18th, 2005 ready4dis - January 28th, 2005, 95venge - February 27, 2005

djtrickee- Sent MY own Megasquirt to Mrslick on Feb. 18, 2005 for testing and repair. bummer.

Current Status

You entered 0103 8555 7493 9032 1928

Your item arrived at 6:52 am on May 06, 2005 in SUN CITY, AZ 85351.

Shit happens, but good people will always come through. I'm going to the folks house tonight to pick up my new Megasquirt. Good luck to all of you.

Originally posted by DR1665

Current Status You entered 0103 8555 7493 9032 1928 Your item arrived at 6:52 am on May 06, 2005 in SUN CITY, AZ 85351.

Shit happens, but good people will always come through. I'm going to the folks house tonight to pick up my new Megasquirt. Good luck to all of you.

That's good to hear B. I think that I'm next in line, so hopefully I will hear something soon.

Originally posted by BOOSTED ECLIPSE
That's good to hear B. I think that I'm next in line, so hopefully I will hear something soon.

Agreed, Joe. :thumbsup

I still have nothing.......not even notification. At this point i just want my money back.

okay so what's the word on the rest of us?

Jon

1997 Eclipse RS
1998 Dodge Dakota Sport
12.671 @ 111.660 1.586 60' 5/28/04

www.haiokuracing.com

shaun> i'm sayin', bro!

text message from Lee:
He says he has several in process at the moment.

for the longest time I heard "yours is on the work bench behind me ready to ship out, just waiting on cases that will be here next week" but now i have to wait for them to be made? nothing is adding up...

Feb. 24th here. Lee was easy to get in touch with when I was discussing the buying of the product and it's options. Once he mooved I have had no contact. I was going the ultra lazy route and having Lee build my harness too, so he said when I orderd it it would be 2-3 weeks. I had no issues contacting him until the move and the baby and all. I am not making any excuses for the way he has handeled this, as I would like to be kept updated as to what is going on. This is unacceptable as far as the contact issues. I will say that I am not worried that he will get them done, I believe that he will, but I am upset that he told me 2-3 weeks and it has turned out to be almost three months. Had I known how backed up he was at the time of my order I might have gone elsewhere. I am past any charge back options through paypal, but my bank has said they would be able to help me. I am not persuing that right now however, and hope that I will be able to take delivery before I have to take that step.

Originally posted by Kirby
This is unacceptable as far as the contact issues. I will say that I am not worried that he will get them done, I believe that he will, but I am upset that he told me 2-3 weeks and it has turned out to be almost three months.

I agree completely. I am not incahoots, here. I am just sharing any information I have and my opinion of the situtation. :shrug

so uh did you get yours driggs?

Originally posted by HiOnPSI
so uh did you get yours driggs?

Yes he did.

Originally posted by EvuLFleA

Originally posted by HiOnPSI so uh did you get yours driggs?

Yes he did.

He's the only one.

EDIT: I have a real bad feeling that the Megasquirt I sent to Lee to have repaired and updated has been shipped out to someone else as "one he built"

I pray this is not the case.

Check out the second post at this link:

http://msefi.com/viewtopic.php?t=8526


.

Originally posted by dougie2
Check out the second post at this link: http://msefi.com/viewtopic.php?t=8526 .

You know whats even more funny about this, is that Lee sent me a PM from msefi.com about a ignition issue i had posted about over there. I guess he didn't realize my username over there is "md95" hahaa..I replied with where is my MS, and no reply back.

Just more proof that he's truely scamming everyone that purchased a MegaSquirt from him. He's posting over at msefi.com and answers his PMs over there but doesn't give a shit about 2gnt.com and the people he has stolen from. You know he's got to be viewing these 2gnt threads as a "guest"... yet he doesn't post.

I'm sure he didn't mean for things to turn out this way, but hell, if it happened to me, I'd drive 10 hours just to use a computer to let everyone know what's up. Also, who cares if he can't call long distance, because he could call any of the people he owes money with "1-800-collect" and they'd answer the phone AND pay for the call.

Get real guys, you're probably never getting your MS or your money.

I agree, he totally fucked us over. Im tempted to post link to this thread all over the place. He won't even TRY to contact any of us that paid already.
Lee if you read this please call me @ 208-290-6272, and YES you can call collect.

I just replied to that thread too. as well as PM'd him. I think Im going to call the police in his area, mabey they can do something. Does anyone have his address?

I have his home phone 1-814-667-2563 and cell 1-814-251-3609.

EDIT: Got these from another member. I don't know for sure they are correct, I never got an answer. But my friend said he has talked to him with these numbers...

I posted on the MSEFI site warning people of his shady nature and the mod got ahold of me today. Here is what he sent me.

From: lance
To: rxr_eclipse
Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:54 am
Subject: Mr.Slick
rxr_eclipse,

Thanks for posting the link, we were totally unaware there was an issue. I am going to do a few things:


<*>I am going to move the thread to the general information thread, where it will be more widely seen.

<*>I will give Lee a few days to respond.

<*>If he doesn't respond appropriately during that time, I will move the thread to the 'Products and Services' forum, so that anyone considering a purchase from Mr.Slick will see it, and I will deactivate him at msefi.com; pending the shipment of all outstanding orders.


Feel free to pass this along.

Lance.


Pretty cool of Lance to support us here. Major props to him.

Heh, he'll probably just stop posting on there as well.

Anyone know what to do to get my money back if I paid through my debit card on paypal over the 45 day return period? I'm thinking about just going with http://www.rs-autosport.com/ since they claim a 2-week ship out, but need to get my $300 back before I can order it.

Originally posted by Ready4Dis
Heh, he'll probably just stop posting on there as well. Anyone know what to do to get my money back if I paid through my debit card on paypal over the 45 day return period? I'm thinking about just going with http://www.rs-autosport.com/ since they claim a 2-week ship out, but need to get my $300 back before I can order it.

Stay away from them as well. We ordered wire from them over a month ago......... nothing.

Originally posted by SANDMAN

Originally posted by Ready4Dis Heh, he'll probably just stop posting on there as well. Anyone know what to do to get my money back if I paid through my debit card on paypal over the 45 day return period? I'm thinking about just going with http://www.rs-autosport.com/ since they claim a 2-week ship out, but need to get my $300 back before I can order it.

Stay away from them as well. We ordered wire from them over a month ago......... nothing.

You guys know we have a paying site sponsor that sells prebuilt MS units, right? Check the banner!



http://www.2gnt.com/nuke/banners.php?op=click&bid=24

That is cool, keep us updated please.

I just want my OEM 95 ECU back.. I can get a MS somewhere else. The $280 i sent has been gone out of my hands so long, i don't even miss it.

Originally posted by RxR_Eclipse
I posted on the MSEFI site warning people of his shady nature and the mod got ahold of me today. Here is what he sent me. From: lance To: rxr_eclipse Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:54 am Subject: Mr.Slick rxr_eclipse, Thanks for posting the link, we were totally unaware there was an issue. I am going to do a few things: <*>I am going to move the thread to the general information thread, where it will be more widely seen. <*>I will give Lee a few days to respond. <*>If he doesn't respond appropriately during that time, I will move the thread to the 'Products and Services' forum, so that anyone considering a purchase from Mr.Slick will see it, and I will deactivate him at msefi.com; pending the shipment of all outstanding orders. Feel free to pass this along. Lance. Pretty cool of Lance to support us here. Major props to him.

Nice work rxr_eclipse!

Here is the thread from msefi.com if people want to see if he responds over there:

http://www.msefi.com/viewtopic.php?p=52712&sid=bd18635839709f90592c43a4a14af064#52712

I have yet to hear anything from Lee or seen anything of my MSnS (I ordered and paid for it on 12/04/04) . I went ahead and bought a kit from DIYAutotune a little over a week ago and built one to at least run fuel. I have no electronic experience but I was able to build it with no problems. It took me a total of about 8 hours to build and test it. I took my time and made sure that I did everything right. There is no reason Lee cannot at least build and ship one Megasquirt a week. Hell, he should be able to build one in half the time it took me.


I'm normally a laid back, easy going guy and will give just about anyone the benefit of the doubt, but this has gone on for to long and I have lost my patience. Now, if i do not hear from Lee or receive my stuff soon, I am going to do everything I can do legally to get my money back or at least make it the most miserable $580 he has ever had.


BTW: Thanks to Lance and RxR Eclipse for helping out.

I just read the post 8526 on msefi. If thats not proof i dont know what is.....Talk about taking an impecable rep and destroying it......sounds kinda like another 2gnt member by the name of Lee.

I am one of the few that purchase a MS system off Lee. I ordered mine early April. I've spoken to him then, saying that he will let me know when he does recieve my money. But eversince then, I have not recieve one email or notice from him. I have been trying to following up on my order but Lee has not yet answered to my emails. I hope Lee didnt went ghost on us. Can we do something to get our money back? Because we just donated so much money to that guy if we're not going to do nothing. Keep me informed. Thanks.

nm

This sucks, totally. I was counting on Lee for MS support. I'm in the middle of my buil up and was really looking foward on hearing from him with advice...damn. This sucks.

Originally posted by TXTurboGS
This sucks, totally. I was counting on Lee for MS support. I'm in the middle of my buil up and was really looking foward on hearing from him with advice...damn. This sucks.

There's tons of people that can help you. Lee is not the only source of info - check the MSEFI.com forums, in the -extra section. Plenty of into and the guy the developed the 420A wheel decoder is constantly fielding questions there.

There's also this forum. The more discussion there is here, the better we'll get. Keep that in mind.