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Topic subjectAEM EMS idea...
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1592, AEM EMS idea...
Posted by 95atl, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Ok, so since the race version of the AEM EMS isn't out yet, and they don't make one for our cars, and the tec-3 is shown to cost well over $3000 once you buy all of the damn crank trigger bs and electromotive goodies, couldn't we theoretically buy a cheap AEM EMS system made for a civic off of ebay and make it work on our cars?

It seems to me that you would just need to chop off the wiring harness and make your own, and then create a new basemap, right? From what I've read about the upcoming race only EMS, is that it's basically a universal fit application with a generic basemap. Besides, you're going to have to spend many hours tuning the damn thing anyway, and I'm sure you can dig up enough basemap settings from other makes/models to get the car running.

Anyway, you can pick up a civic EMS for $1250, and as a post below demonstrated, it costs over $3k to get all of the parts necessary to run a tec-3, not to mention all of those dyno hours building your own basemap anyway. So what do you guys think?

Dan
1593, RE: AEM EMS idea...
Posted by extreme97nt, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
It sounds like a good Idea but it is not as simple as you think. For one the sensors are different on a honda. Hondas also use distributers. No matter which standalone we go with we will need a 60 tooth trigger wheel. It will be more work than it is worth IMO. 034efi.com has sme nice units that are cheaper than 3k.
1594, RE: AEM EMS idea...
Posted by rhui, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I have a base map made for our cars.... running on the tec-3.

Yes its a stock map... but runs a little lean cause stock injectors are too small for this new map. A turbo one will follow soon.
1595, RE: AEM EMS idea...
Posted by MrSlick, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Blah... Megasquirt is way cheaper... and I had my car RUNNING with a VE map that I just made up!

And it didn't take much to get it tuned right either... Now that I have the Megasquirt installed I'll smack anyone that doesn;t at least consider it...lol

:cheers
1596, RE: AEM EMS idea...
Posted by 95atl, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Ok, but with the megasquirt, how do you handle ignition timing? (in the absence of the ultramegasquirt) Do you just let the stock computer take care of it? If so, how do you trick the knock sensor into not retarding when boost is present?

So basically, when you delete the stock computer, the only real way to control the ignition timing is via a crank trigger system? Thanks for the input!

Dan
1597, RE: AEM EMS idea...
Posted by theallpowerfulme, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
the 2gnt has a knock sensor? :scratch
1598, RE: AEM EMS idea...
Posted by rhui, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
our cars dont have a stock knock sensor...

and im not familiar with the megasquirt... does it replace stock ecu completely? How did u solve spedometer problem/charging system/AC probs?
1599, RE: AEM EMS idea...
Posted by Avenger, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by rhui
our cars dont have a stock knock sensor...



WHAT!!!!???? We do have a knock sensor from the factory stock.
1600, RE: AEM EMS idea...
Posted by DarkOne, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by rhui
our cars dont have a stock knock sensor...


They most certainly do.
1601, RE: AEM EMS idea...
Posted by rhui, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Ops... I dunno what the heck I was drinking that day. I meant to say we DO have a factory knock sensor... :/

my bad!
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