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94684, another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by DR1665, Nov-21-05 05:36 PM
Details on Team-2g.com

Anyone have any thoughts? Kid seems sincere enough and even has some pictures. Some of his information sounds plausible, but I figured this might be something some of the veterans would like to check out. Supposedly, he will have better pictures up soon.

Thanks.
94685, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by ez, Nov-21-05 05:44 PM
woah, team-2g.com? where have I been?
94686, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by DR1665, Nov-21-05 05:55 PM
Originally posted by ez
woah, team-2g.com? where have I been?


It was originally supposed to be a forum for az2gnt to use, but John and I had other plans at the time. Also, go ahead and laugh at my being called "The Hazer" all you want. I got the reputation because I just unloaded on hapless newbies who were sharing the most ignorant of misninformation back in the day. It was a great outlet for a lot of pent up rage and hostility. I mean, there were a lot of idiots on that site when I went back after a year. Heh.

Ah well. I just know I'll be hearing about this from deej by morning, so have fun with it.
94687, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by Blizare, Nov-21-05 06:05 PM
I don't know what to say. I'd LOVE to see a video of a 2gnt with a SC spining. I'm really curious about all the point's you made Brian But he seems to kind of answer them with the upper and lower alternator bracket. I want to see the adaptor plate and how the lower mani is set up but if this were me and I was going to these lengths, I would have a bunch of fucking pictures go with that thread.

Ya know what, I never really thought this would be too hard ever since having my motor out and rebuilt. I just never had a e46 eaton supercharger around to mess with.

It makes sense to me and could work.

Brian, you may be eating crow this week for dinner :P :P

94688, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by BumpinTalon, Nov-21-05 06:08 PM
hahaha I signed up and posted, just to see the pics, and then bitch at him for taking such shitty pics. It'd be cool if he pulled it off and then shared the knowledge with us all. With decent pics.

edit: wow! His explanations are so concise I think it might actually work. This is almost... exciting!
94696, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by CustomGS, Nov-22-05 05:08 AM
Originally posted by BumpinTalon
hahaha I signed up and posted, just to see the pics, and then bitch at him for taking such shitty pics. It'd be cool if he pulled it off and then shared the knowledge with us all. With decent pics. edit: wow! His explanations are so concise I think it might actually work. This is almost... exciting!


haha, I signed up as well, although, i'm not to excited about being called a Honda Lover so i probably wont post. This thread is rather exciting though. He seems to know a little. Unlike the few thousand other SC claims threads we've seen here. Maybe we could get someone from his area to do some field reporting for us. I was just about to start peicing together my kit but i may wait to see how this turns out.
94697, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by DR1665, Nov-22-05 05:34 AM
Originally posted by CustomGS
haha, I signed up as well, although, i'm not to excited about being called a Honda Lover so i probably wont post.

That's just a default rank that sticks with you until you hit 50 posts. There's some good kids over there and a couple of really sharp turbo guys as well.

Originally posted by CustomGS
This thread is rather exciting though. He seems to know a little. Unlike the few thousand other SC claims threads we've seen here. Maybe we could get someone from his area to do some field reporting for us. I was just about to start peicing together my kit but i may wait to see how this turns out.

I agree. One of the guys over there, MitsubishiMike, lives near him and he's talking about getting over to take a peak at this thing. I hope he'll have some kind of information for us by the weekend. This guy seems like he's put some effort into the system and might actually have it running. Whether it runs well is another story altogether, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until he proves himself to be a fucktard.


94700, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by CustomGS, Nov-22-05 05:52 AM
Originally posted by DR1665
MitsubishiMike, lives near him and he's talking about getting over to take a peak at this thing. I hope he'll have some kind of information for us by the weekend. This guy seems like he's put some effort into the system and might actually have it running. Whether it runs well is another story altogether, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until he proves himself to be a fucktard.


you, benefit of the doubt??? Woah! :D It's weird, but im anxiously awaiting a new response in that thread. Its got me hooked.
94689, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by shazow1969, Nov-21-05 06:24 PM
I'm not a member of that other site I wanna see some of these pics as well. I'm a skeptic but I'm open minded. A SC on a 420a would make decent numbers from off idle. sounds interesting. someone please post some of those better pics he was talking about posting up soon.

-Kevin
94691, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by WIDECLIPSE, Nov-22-05 03:01 AM
The pics that are up aren't worth looking at. I can barely make out what it is. He said he'll have good ones up by tomorrow. Just sign up if you do want to see them. Takes all of 2 minutes.
94692, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by mcgyvr, Nov-22-05 03:18 AM
looks like the thomas knight kit that is available already and has been for a while

its just a pile of crap
94693, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by thedawg, Nov-22-05 04:02 AM
This thread is useless without pics, video, and timeslips.
94694, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by sike, Nov-22-05 04:21 AM
turbo r0x0rz the big one111!
94695, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by DR1665, Nov-22-05 04:58 AM
Originally posted by thedawg
This thread is useless without pics, video, and timeslips.


That's all I was saying. I pretty much got on him because he went around and posted that you can have 182whp for less than a grand in something like three threads right after posting that.

I'm open to people trying new things, but you are stuck with the burden of proof if you want to make claims with something as taboo as S/C 2GNT. :shrug
94699, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by cougar694u, Nov-22-05 05:44 AM
Can someone post the pics here so I don't have to sign up for another fuckin board that I'll never go to again after today?
94701, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by DR1665, Nov-22-05 05:53 AM
Originally posted by cougar694u
Can someone post the pics here so I don't have to sign up for another fuckin board that I'll never go to again after today?


Hold out for the good ones, man. Right now, they're all shitty camera phone pics. I tried to post one over here last night, but they've got them turned off or something. He attached them and you can't display them on another forum that I know of. If/when he gets pics up this week, I'll host them if I have to.
94703, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by cougar694u, Nov-22-05 06:16 AM
Eaton doesn't make the m64 anymore, I don't think. All I could find info on are the M45, M62, M90, & M112. I don't know which characteristics it matches better, but here are the graphs of the 62:





As it shows there, the peak is 22 HP @ 5psi, but I don't know what that's in reference to. I'm sure different motors will react differently to this blower. According to that graph, 7 psi would roughly be 29-30 hp. However, you can change the pulleys on these blowers to gain quite a bit more very easily.

If I had the money & the time, this is the route I'd go.

**EDIT**
and as far as the belt. From the pictures, it looks like he just put a larger serpentine belt on there. That's what the KB setup does on mustangs.

**EDIT 2**
I'm guessing that's how he runs the belt from:
you can use the water pump pulley from a ford probe modified to a supercharger pulley that should give you around 7 psi(unless you have a underdrive pulley)

**EDIT 3 (LOL)***
I just saw where he said that m64 can push 14 psi on a 3.8l. That's a rather large blower. Probably closer to the M90-M112.
94778, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by grain, Nov-25-05 06:51 PM
man.... what i could do with full boost before 1400 rpms...... nothing?
94826, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by ShadowWulf, Nov-27-05 06:16 PM
The only way i would ever do this is if i could find the supercharger itself for less than $500.....and thats proably not gonna happen anytime soon :thumbsdown

*EDIT* im just gonna STFU and correct myself for once :bash
http://cgi.ebay.com/EATON-M45-SUPERCHARGER-BMW-MINI-COOPER-VW-POLO-G40-G60_W0QQitemZ8017424298QQcategoryZ72205QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Its the only one on ebay right now, but damn thats pretty cheap so far.
Im not sure if that particular charger is even compatable though.
94827, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by dsmmyth, Nov-27-05 06:36 PM
Wow, this seems really really really cool. I knew about the S/C, but never had details.

The problem I'd think you'd run into is getting a S/C small enough to fit in the bay. It's really cramped.
94828, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by ShadowWulf, Nov-27-05 06:41 PM
Originally posted by dsmmyth
Wow, this seems really really really cool. I knew about the S/C, but never had details. The problem I'd think you'd run into is getting a S/C small enough to fit in the bay. It's really cramped.


Thats why i looked at the m45....hell i dont know how an m90 would fit...
94847, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by alain95i4, Nov-28-05 01:27 PM
the best candidate for such project is the IHI supercharger of the mazda millenia with the miller cycle engine

Alain
94850, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by turbo8u, Nov-28-05 02:17 PM
Originally posted by grain
man.... what i could do with full boost before 1400 rpms...... nothing?



no shit.
94853, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by ShadowWulf, Nov-28-05 04:07 PM
Originally posted by turbo8u
Originally posted by grain man.... what i could do with full boost before 1400 rpms...... nothing?
no shit.


Do some SERIOUS suspension mods? Heh, i can see driving slicks on a daily drivere to and from work just to hook up at stop signs }(
94866, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by DSMchevy, Nov-29-05 04:16 AM
Originally posted by ShadowWulf
Originally posted by turbo8u
Originally posted by grain man.... what i could do with full boost before 1400 rpms...... nothing?
no shit.
Do some SERIOUS suspension mods? Heh, i can see driving slicks on a daily drivere to and from work just to hook up at stop signs }(


you think that is crazy? back in the day my dad drove a 427 L-88, well over 500 ft-lbs, went to 7000rpm. He had no money for regular tires though, so he only had slicks. that was his only car, drove it every day for a few years. In michigan winters with heavy snow on Slicks! that had to have been crazy.
94858, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by InFiNiT3, Nov-28-05 08:31 PM
U KNOW IVE SEEN THESE ALL DAY ON PT'S. DAMN CAPPS . and looking at the pics i tookthe flange was already shaped to our intake ports. no adpt. needed. love to play around with one tho


02:19:18pm DarkOne> They'd have had to brought a whole fucking JUG of KY.
02:19:28pm InFiNiT3> lol no shit
02:19:39pm DarkOne> and a funnel.
02:19:45pm grain> have to get the ky with warming
02:20:00pm InFiNiT3> i feel sorry for the 18 y/o (one was 17 one 18) his name was plaster'd all over the news n news paper
02:20:06pm DarkOne> Yeah, has to be warming.
02:20:06pm BuckNutty> jus spit on it and it'll go in
02:20:17pm InFiNiT3> aye the ky w/ warming any good>
02:20:45pm grain> never tryed it
02:20:50pm grain> i applyed for a sample on thier website
02:20:56pm BuckNutty> evan didn't complain any
02:20:56pm BuckNutty> it felt nice
02:20:57pm InFiNiT3> lol
02:21:01pm grain> i use id glide whne she dries
02:21:06pm grain> good stuff
02:21:45pm InFiNiT3> thnx for the new sig guys
02:21:45pm DarkOne> Are we still talking about fucking dead chicks?
94859, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by InFiNiT3, Nov-28-05 08:44 PM
heres a link

http://www.revelenterprises.com/pt_cruiser_supercharger_more_info.htm

and its CA smog legal :)



02:19:18pm DarkOne> They'd have had to brought a whole fucking JUG of KY.
02:19:28pm InFiNiT3> lol no shit
02:19:39pm DarkOne> and a funnel.
02:19:45pm grain> have to get the ky with warming
02:20:00pm InFiNiT3> i feel sorry for the 18 y/o (one was 17 one 18) his name was plaster'd all over the news n news paper
02:20:06pm DarkOne> Yeah, has to be warming.
02:20:06pm BuckNutty> jus spit on it and it'll go in
02:20:17pm InFiNiT3> aye the ky w/ warming any good>
02:20:45pm grain> never tryed it
02:20:50pm grain> i applyed for a sample on thier website
02:20:56pm BuckNutty> evan didn't complain any
02:20:56pm BuckNutty> it felt nice
02:20:57pm InFiNiT3> lol
02:21:01pm grain> i use id glide whne she dries
02:21:06pm grain> good stuff
02:21:45pm InFiNiT3> thnx for the new sig guys
02:21:45pm DarkOne> Are we still talking about fucking dead chicks?
94868, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by cougar694u, Nov-29-05 06:36 AM
Yeah, for only $3649.95-4249.95. The whole reason he posted on there was because he did it for less than half that.
94887, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by jonhix, Nov-29-05 07:42 PM
Im going to meet up with him half-way in Orlando on Saturday...check it out and take some GOOD pics of it for you guys...
94893, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by 95EagleTalonESi, Nov-30-05 06:10 AM
Originally posted by jonhix
Im going to meet up with him half-way in Orlando on Saturday...check it out and take some GOOD pics of it for you guys...



Badass, keep us posted. I'm really interested in this, I love superchargers.
94898, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by tim97rs, Nov-30-05 09:46 AM
i can't believe this post has gone on this long. Even if he has done it and it does work, its still just as feasable and beneficial as throwing in a v-8. at the end we'll all say nice job but it's not worth the headache... and promptly move on and forget about it.
94912, RE: another SUPERCHARGED 2GNT just popped up
Posted by DR1665, Dec-01-05 06:25 AM
Originally posted by tim97rs
i can't believe this post has gone on this long. Even if he has done it and it does work, its still just as feasable and beneficial as throwing in a v-8. at the end we'll all say nice job but it's not worth the headache... and promptly move on and forget about it.


You are right on, Tim, however, it would be really nice to finally have one supercharged 2GNT out there that we can all agree was actually done legitimately. Feasiblity aside, it's something different, and I'm more interested in knowing that it has finally been done and runs. So what if the guy is way off base in terms of cost. :P

I hope you get some video, John. I think it would be bad ass to see a 2G and hear supercharger whine under the hood. }(