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Okay, I have a friend who has a 95 Neon and he told me that Dodge made 2 different TB's for the their Neons.

The Neons that came with the ATX tranny came with a bigger TB with a softer spring.

The MTX Neons came with a smaller TB with a stiffer spring.

He saud Dodge did this to resolve the throttle response issue



Is this the same with the 2gNT DSMs?

No! we use a different TB. the butterfly assembly is reveresed between the two...

Originally posted by DegreE
**I searched and found nothing** Okay, I have a friend who has a 95 Neon and he told me that Dodge made 2 different TB's for the their Neons. The Neons that came with the ATX tranny came with a bigger TB with a softer spring. The MTX Neons came with a smaller TB with a stiffer spring. He saud Dodge did this to resolve the throttle response issue Is this the same with the 2gNT DSMs?

Yes, the manuals came with a 49mm, and the autos with a 52mm. The throttle plates in both are 52mm. They will not work on the 420A engine, because of the linkage.

But this will http://www.howellautomotive.com/Howell/Store/catalog/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1833

wow $150bux? a little steep. Is it worth it?

I have a Cold-air intake, 4-1 headder, testpipe, catback exhuast, egr blockoff kit, and a howell UDP.


I have a extra 2gNT TB sitting in my room. Where can I send it to get it bored? Would it be cheaper and beter?


What are the pros/cons between buying this one and sending out a OEM TB to be bored?

Originally posted by DegreE
wow $150bux? a little steep. Is it worth it? I have a Cold-air intake, 4-1 headder, testpipe, catback exhuast, egr blockoff kit, and a howell UDP. I have a extra 2gNT TB sitting in my room. Where can I send it to get it bored? Would it be cheaper and beter? What are the pros/cons between buying this one and sending out a OEM TB to be bored?

Don't get the 60mm N/A, either 55mm or 57mm. Theres a guy on ebay who does them, I got my 57 from him for 110 shipped and it kicks ass. Way better throttle response than the 60mm for n/a, but we have all read the famous debate posts on this right? :+

EDIT: heres the one I wound up sticking with.........

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=71166&mesg_id=71166&listing_type=search

Originally posted by DegreE
wow $150bux? a little steep.

I little steep? huh? Those are $250 TB's on serious special.

We bore the stock ones for $100 plus $5 return shipping.

Eddy Fierro bores stockers to 56mm for $75. He is the man.

Originally posted by DR1665
Eddy Fierro bores stockers to 56mm for $75. He is the man.

55mm is as far as you can go without breaking through the casing into a vaccuum passage. I have been boring them for close to 10 years now.

Concept Illusions also does TB porting and boring...plus they'll powdercoat for ya too :thumbsup

Originally posted by XMasta19
Concept Illusions also does TB porting and boring...plus they'll powdercoat for ya too :thumbsup

yeah, i was considering sending my TB to them but I've herd some negative things about them recently about their TB service.