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Topic subjectCracked block?
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92400, Cracked block?
Posted by jayden1, Aug-17-05 10:13 AM
I have replaced the rear main seal three times since the my rebuild and i dont even have 50 miles on the motor yet. Is there any way to tell if the block is cracked besides looking for the crack. i already inspected the block around the seal for cracks and i didnt find anything. i doesnt leak anything until it reaches normal operating temp. And yes i do know how to install a rear main seal.
92401, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Aug-17-05 10:23 AM
did you put anerobic (sp?) sealant around the seal before you installed?
92402, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by BOOSTED ECLIPSE, Aug-17-05 02:05 PM
I had the same problem with my car when I bought it. The guy that I bought it from just had rebuilt the engine, but it leaked oil after it warmed up. He replaced the rear seal again and it still leaked, so he decided to sell the car because he was tired of working on it. Well, anyway to make a long story short. When I took out the rear seal I inspected crank and there was a very small nick on the crank where the seal runs on it. I don't know if he nicked it when he put the engine together or the machine shop did it when they had the parts. After I disassembled the engine I found a lot of other things that were wrong with it so I ended up building it to where it is now.
92408, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by jayden1, Aug-17-05 05:32 PM
i put anaroebic sealant around the bedplate, but not around the seal itself. i lubed the rubber portion up with oil and used the plastic ring they give you with seal to put in place. The first seal i put in i thought itd be easier to put on before i torqued the bedplate down. The second time i put in as normal. Tapping it with a plastic hammer.

How bad was your leak? by the way
92409, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by jayden1, Aug-17-05 05:37 PM
i talked to the machine shop to. Keep in mind Ive done alot businees with this place so they know me fairly well. but anyways he told me they dipped my block and then magnafluxed it. but im not quite sure of what magnafluxing it is.
92410, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by Brandon005, Aug-17-05 07:09 PM
ok what exactly is anaerobic sealant I asked the people at Auto Zone and they had no idea what I'm talking about...I mean nobody knew what it was even the store manager is there another name for it?
92414, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by ner947, Aug-18-05 05:19 AM
It's this red jelly-like substance that makes a gasket and seals without the presence of oxygen. It also goes by "Loctite 518"

In regards to Autozone... I told this guy at Napa some of my experences with Autozone and he put it this way "Stay out of the zone"
92415, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Aug-18-05 06:18 AM
Originally posted by ner947
It's this red jelly-like substance that makes a gasket and seals without the presence of oxygen. It also goes by "Loctite 518" In regards to Autozone... I told this guy at Napa some of my experences with Autozone and he put it this way "Stay out of the zone"


Autozone doesnt sell it either. Napa does though.
92411, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by MetalJim, Aug-17-05 08:38 PM
Originally posted by jayden1
but im not quite sure of what magnafluxing it is.


The Magnafluxing process should show any cracks in your block. If the block was magnafluxed and it showed now cracks - then there are no cracks in the block.


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92416, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by Corbin, Aug-18-05 06:51 AM
I've always used my finger to put a thin film of RTV around the edge of the main seal. Then tapped it in squarely with a mallet. You might expect there to be a slight imperfection right where the bedplate meets the block. The RTV will seal that. Perhaps you are leaking from an oil gallery plug higher up.

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92422, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by jayden1, Aug-18-05 09:37 AM
thanks jim and has anybody used the green shit at carquest that is suppose to show where its exactly leaking from.
92423, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by Erik, Aug-18-05 11:01 AM
magnaflux is a process where you clamp two magnets adjacent to each other in common places where cracks can occur. Then little metal bits are sprikled in that area and if a crack is there, they line up along the crack so it's visible. Alot of times when I have rear main probs with older 2 piece seals, I check the thrust bearing and end clearence to be sure that the crank is not riding on that seal and bashing against it. I do just like Corbin does with the black RTF b/c it will fill in any inperfections.
92424, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by cougar694u, Aug-18-05 11:02 AM
Originally posted by jayden1
has anybody used the green shit at carquest that is suppose to show where its exactly leaking from.


Are you talking about that UV stuff for A/C systems?
92445, RE: Cracked block?
Posted by jayden1, Aug-19-05 09:37 AM
no im talking about some green slimey shit they sell that your suppose to be able to put in radiator/oil/gas/ac ect...