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Topic subjectEngine cranks over but won't start after rebuild - no spark (long)
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89947, Engine cranks over but won't start after rebuild - no spark (long)
Posted by pirotlord, May-27-05 04:19 PM
First off, I know this topic has been covered before but I have searched the forums and have not found the answer I to my problem yet.

I just finished putting on my new ported/polished head, new oil pump, water pump, alternator, timming pullies, and timming belt after about 4mo of down time. The problem is that when I try and start the car the engine will turn over fine from the starter but will not start.

-There is fuel comming in.
-There is was no spark.
-The coil pack does not get 12v on the harness side when I crank the motor.
-I have checked that everything is plugged in twice over.
-I think the timming is good, on rotation one of the crankshaft the cam shaft sprocket marks line up to each other, like this 0- -0 and the crank shaft lines up to to the mark on the oil pump. On rotation two the ticks on the cam sprockets look like this: -0 0- and the crank is lined up to the oil pump. When I turn the motor by hand there is no valve/pistons hitting and it is easy to turn. I also never took off the cam gears off the cams, so they can't be reversed.
-I tried unplugging the 2 fat relays on the firewall, drivers side, and cranking the motor, then plugging them back in... still wouldn't start.
-I get a check engine light that goes away after 5 sec, so ECU is probbably ok?
-I never took crank sensor out, and never even unplugged it from its harness so I can't see how it could have gone bad.
-I took a multimeter to the harness for the cam position sensor, with the sensor unplugged, and ignition in "ON" and I am reading 5v, ground, .74 volts. The Chiltons book says the third wire should have 12v.

I hope someone can help, thanks in advance. BTW I just ordered a new cam sensor from rockauto, it was only $26 and the current sensor has a small hairline crack in it (even though it worked ok before) so maybe that can fix it.


89956, RE: Engine cranks over but won't start after rebuild - no spark (long)
Posted by allmotorgs, May-28-05 10:31 AM
check to see if you have the target magnent on the exhaust cam behind the cam position sensor, i know that i didnt have one on there and it wouldnt spark except for after 5 or 6 seconds of cranking, but still its a little annoying part that most people have never herd of.
89963, RE: Engine cranks over but won't start after rebuild - no spark (long)
Posted by pirotlord, May-28-05 08:06 PM
I am pretty sure it's on there. I took cam sensor off yesterday and put it back on after whipping it and the magnet on the cam. It had a little oil on it.
89964, RE: Engine cranks over but won't start after rebuild - no spark (long)
Posted by eclipse7782, May-28-05 09:01 PM
The cam sensor plug and the coil pack plug are the same style plug, each will plug into both, did u plug them in to the wrong ones??
89982, RE: Engine cranks over but won't start after rebuild - no spark (long)
Posted by HadesOmega, May-29-05 01:35 PM
check the spark relay? its probably not it but its worth a mention.
90011, RE: Engine cranks over but won't start after rebuild - no spark (long)
Posted by pirotlord, May-30-05 06:22 AM
Originally posted by eclipse7782
The cam sensor plug and the coil pack plug are the same style plug, each will plug into both, did u plug them in to the wrong ones??


Thanks, a lot eclipse7782 :) I endeed up swaping the plug going to the transmission sensor and the coil pack plug because they are also the same size, and almost the same length. Once I swapped them back I heard a click in a relay, I went to turn the key and it worked :) :) Time to put everything else back on and take it for a test drive.
90091, RE: Engine cranks over but won't start after rebuild - no spark (long)
Posted by sike, May-31-05 12:41 PM
son-of-a-bitch! :o you got served.
90107, RE: Engine cranks over but won't start after rebuild - no spark (long)
Posted by mike_d, Jun-01-05 08:32 AM
You got lucky on that one, Ive seen the coil and speed sensor harnesses get swaped and it fried the ECU.